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To: Heywood40 who wrote (984896)	12/1/2016 4:24:03 AM
From: one_less	2 Recommendations Recommended By locogringo TideGlider Respond to of 1572208

Yes it was all clear to me in the first place. The only issue was that Hillary sponsored such a bill, which you don't care about but when Trump suggest criminalizing it, you react negatively. Personally, I don't think flag burning should be criminalized. Anyway--- Part 1: The key word here seems to be "intent to incite." It is really hard to prove intent because it exists only in the mind of the actor, unless of course they verbalize their intent. The two outcomes indicated are violence or disturbance of the peace. Violence is easy to dismiss because causes of violence erupting in a public display are hard to prove. Personally, I hold the individual violent acting people responsible... not the event (flag burning). In a protest where you are burning a flag, it seems obvious to me that the flag burner intents to provoke (disturb) the audience. Is that not obvious to you? >>>I agree, intention to incite or produce imminent violence or a breach of the peace should not be allowed under any circumstances. Of course, destroying or damaging a flag without that purpose and intent is not prohibited.<<< Sure but can you give an example? Part 2: Intentionally threatening or intimidating any person, or group of persons, by burning a U.S. flag >>>I agree, threatening or intimidating people should not be allowed under any circumstances. Of course, burning a US flag without such intent is not prohibited.<<< And yet there are large groups of people who voice their disapproval and feelings of intimidation wrt flag burning. Part 3: (You edited a little too much out) It actually says, "stealing or knowingly converting the use of a U.S. flag belonging to the United States, or belonging to another person on U.S. lands, and intentionally destroying or damaging that flag." I edited out stealing because that didn't seem necessary. Stealing is already a crime. Knowingly converting the use ... and intentionally destroying or damaging that flag is what I was thinking. Maybe I misunderstood it. So if you go buy a US flag, it doesn't belong to the United States and you can burn it, as long as part 1 or part 2 don't apply. Like if you just enjoy burning it in your back yard. It seems unlikely but OK.