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To: one_less who wrote (985377)	12/2/2016 10:31:52 PM
From: TideGlider	1 Recommendation Recommended By one_less Respond to of 1570830

The 'Apology of Socrates' was a jewel in his crown Very much like the crucifixion of Christ and Stranger in a Strange Land.

To: one_less who wrote (985377)	12/3/2016 12:09:32 AM
From: koan	2 Recommendations Recommended By one_less TideGlider Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1570830

Considering that Plato was able to think at that level of sophistication after only a couple hundred years of humans practicing, is pretty amazing. Especially inasmuch as he didn't have modern inductive science to pull from i.e. experimentation. I think the edge of knowledge and the edge of perception lies in quantum physics. It is interesting that Aristotle actually had a concept of Atoms. These were really smart guys. But they didn't have any knowledge of things like relativity or the Heisenberg uncertainty principle or quantum phenomena. The truth of the matter, is we have no way of knowing about realities beyond what we perceive. The whole point of learning, of education, acquiring knowledge, is that the more you have the more the brain can understand and the more that it can see. A person that doesn't take their time to try and understand as much as they can, is relegating themselves to effectively going through life blind. Well at least someone needing glasses-lol. Alfred North Whitehead, the buddy of Bertrand Russell, said ,we have this tendency to divide the universe into the organic and the inorganic. But I think that consciousness is a third system in the universe. I think he is right. I think it is the natural evolution of the universe to go from inorganic, to organic , to consciousness. We are fast approaching that with the human singularity. So I think that consciousness is pervasive in the universe and sentient beings many times smarter than we are, are numerous, and understand things far more complex than we do, and can see and experience realities we cannot even imagine. We are the beginning of consciousness, but certainly not the end. So the big question is how much more sophisticated can we get in our thinking? And how much more can we see and understand? And yet many people prefer to just throw shit at the wall over trying to actually learn about reality.