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To: bentway who wrote (985849)	12/5/2016 10:28:04 PM
From: TideGlider	1 Recommendation Recommended By James Seagrove Respond to of 1578468

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To: bentway who wrote (985849)	12/5/2016 10:56:29 PM
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Greg Hayes, the CEO of United Technologies, the parent company of air-conditioner manufacturer Carrier, just let slip a consequence of a deal struck to keep jobs in Indiana. And American workers aren't going to like it. Carrier said last month that it would keep more than 1,000 jobs across two locations in Indiana, following pressure from president-elect Donald Trump. The decision was touted as a win for the incoming president, who had pledged keep the jobs from moving to Mexico. In a wide-ranging interview with CNBC's Mad Money with Jim Cramer aired December 5, Hayes set out the comparative advantages of moving to jobs to Mexico, the motivation behind his decision to keep those jobs in Indiana, and the ultimate outcome of the deal: there will be fewer manufacturing jobs in Indiana. Before we get to thatFirst, Hayes was asked what's so good about Mexico. Quite a lot, it turns out. From the transcript (emphasis added): JIM CRAMER: What's good about Mexico? What's good about going there? And obviously what's good about staying here? GREG HAYES: So what's good about Mexico? We have a very talented workforce in Mexico. Wages are obviously significantly lower. About 80% lower on average. But absenteeism runs about 1%. Turnover runs about 2%. Very, very dedicated workforce. JIM CRAMER: Versus America? GREG HAYES: Much higher. JIM CRAMER: Much higher. GREG HAYES: Much higher. And I think that's just part of these-- the jobs, again, are not jobs on assembly line that people really find all that attractive over the long term. Now I've got some very long service employees who do a wonderful job for us. And we like the fact that they're dedicated to UTC, but I would tell you the key here, Jim, is not to be trained for the job today. Our focus is how do you train people for the jobs of tomorrow? So Mexico has cheaper labor with a much more dedicated workforce, and these are the kinds of low-skilled jobs most people don't find that attractive. Elsewhere in the interview, he made clear that United Technologies intends to keep engineering jobs in the US, and that these higher-skilled jobs are not at risk of being moved overseas. "The assembly lines in Indiana-- I mean, great people. Great, great people. But the skill set to do those jobs very different than what it takes to assemble a jet engine," he said. Hayes was then asked why he decided to cancel the move to Mexico. From the transcript (emphasis added): GREG HAYES: So-- there was a cost as we thought about keeping the Indiana plant open. At the same time, and I'll tell you this because you and I, we know each other, but I was born at night but not last night. I also know that about 10% of our revenue comes from the US government. And I know that a better regulatory environment, a lower tax rate can eventually help UTC of the long run. But here's the kickerThe result of keeping the plant in Indiana open is a $16 million investment to drive down the cost of production, so as to reduce the cost gap with operating in Mexico. What does that mean? Automation. What does that mean? Fewer jobs, Hayes acknowledged. From the transcript (emphasis added): GREG HAYES: Right. Well, and again, if you think about what we talked about last week we're going to make a $16 million investment in that factory in Indianapolis to automate to drive the cost down so that we can continue to be competitive. Now is it as cheap as moving to Mexico with lower cost labor? No. But we will make that plant competitive just because we'll make the capital investments there. JIM CRAMER: Right. GREG HAYES: But what that ultimately means is there will be fewer jobs. The general theme here is something we've been writing about a lot at Business Insider. Yes, low-skilled jobs are being lost to other countries, but they're also being lost to technology. Everyone from liberal, Nobel-winning economist Paul Krugman to Republican Senator Ben Sasse have noted that technological developments are a bigger threat to American workers than trade. Viktor Shvets, a strategist at Macquarie, has called it the " third industrial revolution." Hayes said in the same interview that United Technologies is focused on how to "train people for the jobs of tomorrow." In the same breath, he seems to be suggesting the jobs it is keeping in Indiana are the jobs of yesterday.

To: bentway who wrote (985849)	12/5/2016 11:48:18 PM
From: Stock Puppy	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578468

The president of the United States has complete and unilateral control over 1,900 active nuclear weapons. Due to advances in modern technology, the most common protocols for authorizing American nuclear weapons allow for as little as 90 seconds of reflection by the one person alive with the power to use them. How on Earth are any of us safe, how are our loved ones safe, Well, just imagine if Clinton had gotten in. Or is Jill full of s#!^ ? when that person is considered entirely unqualified by some of the most respected members of his own party, and has been assessed by hundreds if not thousands of psychological professionals as having incurable Narcissistic Personality and Sociopathic Personality Disorders? ditto. ditto