To: koan who wrote (1632 ) 12/10/2016 3:32:44 PM From: Lane3 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 361716 The protection of our society and the protection of the individuals in our society is job one for a society. I'll begin my response by emphasizing that point of agreement! Not sure, however, how the rest of your post is consistent with that statement. Perhaps we have different ideas about what "protection" means. My view of protection of our society lies in good stewardship--stewardship of institutions, of resources, of the economy, of our relationship with the outside world. The protection of the individuals in the society lies in the "inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."Everybody in the country has a certain right to the entire wealth of the country, of the tribe. Everyone in the country contributes to the success of the society. Oh, really? How is that? On what basis do you assert that? It is much better to have necessary welfare programs and especially make sure that the people in the spring of life, the winter of life, and those who live in the shadows of life are taken care of. That is how you measure the sucess of a society!... Why can't people see that? Because they are not looking at it through your prism? Taking care of people who need help is surely a feature of a successful society but hardly the definitive measure of it. The essence of success would be in the robustness of its economy and the nobility of its culture, which together produce the capacity to take care of the helpless, seems to me. I think you have the cart ahead of the horse. The problem with focusing on welfare programs is that it speaks to distribution but doesn't nothing to foster robustness. Without robustness there is nothing to distribute.There is a gigantic body of knowledge on what makes a society function best for most . Ah, utilitarianism. I prefer protecting the rights of all.