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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: koan who wrote (2458)	12/15/2016 1:25:10 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 354651

>>>That post is total nonsense.<<< No it isn't. You keep posting these wild allegations with no support for your claims. >>>It is you that cannot seem to figure out what Trump is about. <<< You keep posting that wild allegation without one spec of evidence to support your claim except that I refuse to parrot the group think of your like. >>>The posters I listed and I, figured out trump a long time ago. <<< They formed an anti-Trump position a long time ago. That is ok with me. There are lots of unknowns. You have been asked to substantiate your claim pro/con on what 'figured out' even means. You crawl away and accuse others of wanting to argue. Why? Arguing/debating/challenging/discussing is what this thread was set up for. That's what I figured out. >>>The list of posters I gave you are informed and honest. They get their facts correct and they pretty much agree with each other on virtually everything.<<< They get corrected a lot and post a lot of silly vitriol, at least on the F-AMD thread, but I don't take that thread very serious so it's ok. I am more impressed with how they contribute to this thread, so far. >>>The fact that you cannot see that they are informed with facts and reason, and the veracity of their posts, <<< I have seen a little more of that on this thread (not from you) and have even rec'd some of their posts. >>> makes it understandable why you cannot seem to figure out what Trump is all about.<<< unfounded bash ... wash, rinse, repeat >>> Given all the information there is out there about Trump, the fact that you cannot figure him out is puzzling.<<< unfounded bash ... wash, rinse, repeat >>>And it is your problem. Do your own research. <<< It is not my problem. I have interacted with you quite a bit. I always support my position with sound reason and when called for I substantiate my position. You have loads of examples to consider so, you are being dishonest to suggest otherwise. >>>What do you mean crumbling? What you mean get our act together? <<< I mean when you instigate a topical challenge I expect you to carry your weight, by responding to the people you've provoked with supportive details or other venues of substantiation.... not just "other people think like you." If you want to use other people's ideas fine, at least substantiate those ideas and support them. >>>What do you mean the thread is failing?<<< I didn't say it is failing. I said I would hate to see it fail. It is a thread designed to promote anti-Trump rhetoric and responses to that. The host seems to accept or invite challenges to those promotions of anti-Trump commentary, which seems great to me ... and he encourages civility, which makes it even better. When people provide their reasoned challenges and the response to anti-Trump comments, you run away with comments like "you just want to argue," then the related discussion dies. There are successful threads where right wingers are not welcome. There isn't room for another echo of those sites, if this thread turned into that it would die. >>>What do you mean crumbling? <<< Refusing to support your end of discussions with substantial reason. ... again remarks like, "you just want to argue" then backing out of the topic you initiated. >>>What you mean get our act together?<<< When you initiate or attempt to participate in a topical discussion, especially one that has pro/con perspectives. Bring your evidence/reasoning or something to verify your point beyond 'other people think so, so why don't you.' >>>That is all just empty rhetoric. Meaningless.<<< There you go again. Bring your position to the table and support it or stay in the balcony and watch how it's done.