To: elmatador who wrote (126709 ) 12/21/2016 2:47:27 AM From: TobagoJack Respond to of 217518 Re <<But TJ once told me, and I was shocked, Chinese always try by themselves and only ask for help as they fail. >> ... am fairly sure you misunderstood me. i do remember noting how china's various experiments are rolled out, and much involve studying and discussing, by many involved, from experiences all over the planet the average mayor of average city in china is better traveled and more technical than most of same around the planet. team china have been forced to accomplish much on own and without much help, the space program being one example, and the recent supercomputers being another. all good. Re <<Another discussion I pointed to a senior executive that the company was not keeping its experienced managers, and was always bringing new ones, this lack of continuity was hampering their business. >> ... am pretty sure you again misunderstood. in chinese culture more than enough want to be boss, and so, guess what, it is tough to keep ablest employees. ... in my extended household, including the in-laws in their 70's, and erita's aunts and uncles, all work for selves. all good. Re <<our culture does not depend on the individual. I expected a Smiley to follow. No! He was talking serious. >> ... trust the Force. ... besides, you again misunderstand, per limitations set in micro code perhaps, or a flaw. ... depending on any particular individual is inherently dangerous. Depending on the collective perhaps better. Re <<Chinese need to shed their culture but it is impossible. Witness western educated TJ how tough it is to change his mind and make him see reality. >> ... maybe, and just perhaps you are lacking in convincing logic? i.e you are wrong, or absolutely wrong.