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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: weatherguru who wrote (196334)	12/22/2016 1:33:19 PM
From: weatherguru	6 Recommendations Recommended By DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck Investor Clouseau isopatch locogringo relewis and 1 more member Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224649

When you compare models to observations, models have what is called a "run-up" time. Observed sea-surface temperatures are used as boundary conditions to run with the model for several years. This is why you see good correlation at the beginning, since oceans dictate the global temperature. Once models are on their own and have to forecast SST's, you see the divergence take off. They don't know how to fix it without admitting that CO2 doesn't do much to impact global temperatures. That's why adjusting observed data to fit the model results works better. The two real world lines below are mid-tropospheric temperatures (observed by radiosondes and satellites). They can't change all the data, so they just change the surface data and ignore satellite data. Below is a link + screen shot of satellite data for TLS = "total lower stratosphere", TUT = "total upper troposphere", and TMT = "total mid-troposphere". The warming of the TUT and TMT is negligible, and it's criminal when compared to the adjusted surface data. star.nesdis.noaa.gov NASA GISS's director Gavin Schmidt admits the troposphere must not only warm, but warm faster than the surface. He has to admit it, since that is what the gravy-train theory mandates. So, something is wrong. Can radiosondes, NOAA's satellites, and UAH and RSS satellites all be wrong? Yes, when it's not science but propaganda. The non-response below is telling.