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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10544)	1/4/1998 7:31:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile, Greetings, I have examined many of your posts against the word of God and I find sincerity, honesty and truth. Those who have labeled you a Jew hater are blinded by their own prejudices. Not once do I see where you said you hate the Jews, only the religion that is keeping them so blind to the truth. You have my prayers that God strenghtens you in the faith. -Chris

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10544)	1/4/1998 8:09:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 39621

Alan is the one who brought brother Freyland to me, and I brought it to the thread. At no time has Alan ever suggested or praised the Talmud or its followers. He repeatedly questioned what it was and didn't have a clue. All he has is what you have posted on the matter. You can call me anything you want Emile, if I did not think the Lord was backing me up on this I wouldn't have said a word. You have overracted and taken out your hatred on those who created and study the Talmud on Alan, a believer who came to this thread to see what we were saying because I invited him to. Your behavior continues to be ludicrous, even though your information is good for us all. I always thought the Talmud was just the Bible, and excluded the study of Jesus Christ, period. I think for you to channel your anger into prayer against the power of the Talmud over a whole race of people, as I do over the major huge Christian-type cult "churches" involving millions of Americans at this point, would make more sense than continuing to blame Alan for it. That continues to be simply unsound and assinine. When you ever say, Alan, forgive me. I'm out of control on this subject because it has caused so much harm, but blaming you for a 1500 year old set of books which you have never seen is really pretty rediculous. Please forgive me. I hope you will see that the Talmud is purely evil in many parts, and that it can ruin Jewish people forever if they spend much time in it.. Then things will change around here, believe me.e

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10544)	1/4/1998 8:22:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile, If Rachmiel were here he would not accept your isolation of paragraphs from his book. He describes his loving and warm family and friends as well. Being that he was trained in Talmud I trust him a reliable source compared to yourself. Alan and I have said many times that we do not defend Talmud any more than the Book of Mormon or any religious materials not inspired by the Holy Spirit. He states that many Jewish parents refused offers from Christians to take their children for they did not want them to grow up to hate. They could not separate the Nazis from the religion as you can not separate the Jews from the Talmud. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Page 147 By Rachmiel Frydland (When being Jewish was a crime) I believe Christians should be prepared for a time like this. Our Churches stress the obligation to obey the powers that are ordained under God according to Romans 13. Should we not also be taught that there are times when a Christian is obliged to disobey his leaders and the laws of his own country? The pastor and members of the German Baptist Church were probably born again Christians. However their government made these laws and therefore they reasoned they must obey them. When they were ordained to expel all HEBREW CHRISTIANS members from their Churches they obeyed thinking they were thereby fulfilling the Scriptures.In Hitler they saw the only leader who truly resisted Communism. If he said that ALL JEWS WERE BAD AND SHOULD BE EXTERMINATED LIKE VERMIN, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE TRANSGRESSING GOD'S WORD IF THEY DISOBEYED THE POWER APPOINTED BY GOD. This was true not only of the German Christians. I can still see in my mind the puzzled face of the deacon in the Polish Evangelical Christian Church as he said, " You come to me to help you, to give you food and shelter, but I will be transgressing the laws of my country which I am commanded in the Word of God to obey. Upon this, he showed me the Scriptures of Jeremiah 29:7 and Romans 13:1-7. At that time I had nowhere to go and so I stayed for the Church service. He spoke on these texts to show that we have to be obedient also to the Nazi authorities. Many Christians had helped me until that time and I knew they were right and he was wrong. I was a young Christian and he was an elder, a deacon and a preacher, and who was I to contradict his teaching? On the other hand, there were Christians like the brave Mrs. Ivanov. Because of her resistance to government decrees, at least 5 Hebrew Christians survived the massacres. Two of us are in the Lords service. She saved a certain little girl from the burning Warsaw ghetto and found a Christian home for her. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Church is vulnerable to the attitudes of Emile and we are vulnerable to hardening our hearts from this doctrine of hate. He can read a whole book and find only what agrees with him and uplifts no one. Emile says people are after his blood but he is not the one that had a rifle pointed at him and his family. The things you say Emile caused that to happen and you still have not said it was wrong. In the past you have said the Holocaust was a result of Deuteronomy 28 God help you if you are wrong for no one can ever say this was the will of God to me. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Jesus did not will it, He allowed it I believe to show how hard our hearts had become and to heal that hardness. But know thanks to people like you the hardness is coming back. The Bible states that they (Israel/Jews) are enemies of the Gospel( against Jesus) on your account so why do you gloat over finding this? I will tell you again the KKK man that tried to kill many people writes the exact same things that you do and we have seen the fruit from him, it is not the fruit of love and is dangerous for all mankind. Nancy

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10544)	1/4/1998 8:24:00 PM
From: Robert E. Hall	Respond to of 39621

Greetings Emile, Chris, and all the brethren who love the Lord Jesus Christ. An excellent summary of modern Judaism and its rejection and hatred of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit will expose and even now is , all deceivers and heretics and christians who have failed to renew their mind and are living under the rule of the " flesh". They know who they are. I sincerly join with you in your inspired prayer for these young Jewish children to escape this bondage inspired by Satan. May Almighty God draw many more like Rachmiel Frydland into His eternal Kingdom of His Son, The Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace be upon the true Church, the Israel of God both now and for-evermore. Robert

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10544)	1/4/1998 9:49:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Hi Emile, The Catholic Church was formed out of the first century Christian Church and then grew in scope and power to the point that it controlled every area of life for all Europeans. It was a grand scheme to redirect the Christian Church to where it would become unfruitful and stop bringing people to know Jesus. Adhering to a form of godliness while denying God's power. It bottled up knowledge to the point that people became ignorant and hopelessly enslaved to the priests who literally had the power of life or death over them. It has always been obvious that this was a grand scheme of the devils for containment of the Gospel after his defeat at Calvary. It worked well for a long time but then came Luther and Calvin. Because Israel was scattered I never had any thoughts of what happened to the OT religion after Calvary. I knew that it was still believed by the Jewish people but the idea that the devil had a plan to use it also for containment of the Gospel of Jesus just never occurred to me. I knew that the religious leaders rejected Jesus and stories were handed down. But that the devil would come in and build on that and use it to keep people from Jesus seems obvious after reading your post. So with the Catholic Church and the OT religion both keeping people from Jesus the devil had two fronts to try to contain and minimize the damage caused to him at Calvary. It's amazing that the Gospel of Jesus, so powerful, was slowed down so effectively in history so that only now are Jesus's words being fulfilled that "This Gospel must be preached to all the Nations." The devils plan on every front is to thwart the "great commission." I think there is a huge misunderstanding here. Inflamatory rhetoric and highly reactionary individuals have blown things up so big that the truth is difficult to strain from the rest. Have a good evening, Bob PS I can also see after centuries of indoctrination that Israel now would be prime for being decieved by the anti-christ when he appears. They will accept him for a time and eventually realize their mistake. Maybe that will send them running to Jesus.