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To: neolib who wrote (3212)12/31/2016 12:38:10 PM
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i-node

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Far more liberals will acknowledge it if Trump does well

I doubt it. You still have those on the left saying Reagan was a disaster.

Obama actually did quite well for the Country and the economy

That's very debatable, to put it mildly. The recovery was one of the weakest on record. Of course that's just looking at overall results rather then the results of Obama's decisions and policy. As I said to inode presidents typically get more credit and blame than they deserve (and in Obama's case, and probably in others, both more credit and more blame, depending on who's talking about him), but there is little reason to see many of his decisions as economically positive.

Liberals generally embrace science and reality

anti-GMO, anti-vaccination, belieft that world starvation is just around the corner, believing that government can nearly endlessly impost costs on corporations or the rich with little or no harmful results.... All of these and more are far more common on the left than on the right. (Which is not to say that conservatives are all about embracing reality either just that all major political groups, and maybe all, certainly most, of the minor ones as well, all have there own sets of distorted beliefs about reality.)



To: neolib who wrote (3212)12/31/2016 8:38:43 PM
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>> Conservatives generally deny science and embrace religion.

There is no support for this claim. It is the Left, exclusively, going around saying "97% of scientists agree" -- which is about as anti-science as you can get.

AS to religion you really can't ignore other demographics when looking at it. For example, blacks lean traditionally Democrat, but are almost all religious. At the same time there are a lot of fiscal conservatives like myself who aren't really religious at all. There is about a 10 point difference, IIRC, between R & D embracement of religion. That really suggests little more "embracing religion" by conservatives vs. liberals.

There are tons of examples of liberals only embracing the science they choose to embrace, and ignoring the others. For example, it is difficult to find a liberal who will admit that higher minimum wages increase unemployment, yet we know without any question that it does. Liberals will not admit that giving away free stuff to the masses at taxpayer expense causes dependency. Yet, that science was proved by numerous important scientists over the the last couple hundred years. What about THAT science?

GMOs. You get this all the time -- liberals are CONVINCED that GMOs are causing all kinds of sickness and other problems, yet it clearly isn't the truth.

Liberals as a group embrace only the science that supports your political views.