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To: combjelly who wrote (3501)	12/26/2016 12:24:58 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358095

>> And the models, while not totally perfect, are pretty good. Actually, the simple graph below shows that the models SUCK. They started out okay, but as the promises of global warming become more and more wild, the collective IPCC has found the need to just run totally off the rails. As of now, they're projecting 100% higher temperature rise vs. actual. It just isn't even close. The bottom line is that the models are being used to gin up excitement which translates to taxpayer dollars. Or that is at least the Warmists' hope. We are going to need to stop spending until we can find the truth. As to the time frame, please note the chart below was produced based on IPCC-5.

To: combjelly who wrote (3501)	12/31/2016 2:57:33 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 358095

>> Because it is an actual fact that it is happening. And the models, while not totally perfect, are pretty good. "are pretty good" is really subjective. Some are, some aren't. But the data sucks, too. But if you knew anything about the subject, you would know that data manipulation to get a desired result is never okay. And it has been done time and again by everyone from Michael Mann to NOAA. The NOAA adjustments are outrageous, Michael Mann's were fraud. It is one problem of many with the nonsense of GW, but the reality is the true temperature rise has been a small fraction of what they're reporting and they know it damned well. As far as I can tell you don't know a damned thing about this subject.