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To: steve harris who wrote (990393)	12/26/2016 8:59:10 PM
From: mel221	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570807

>> I believe in evolution, So, you accept that Humans evolved from Chimps, which evolved from Lemurs, which evolved from some rodent, which evolved from fish, which evolved from some single cell creature... a bacteria of some kind? Just to be clear, I accept this myself... and have ever since I fully understood the highly conserved nature of the Ribosome... A truly impressive sub-cellular machine. >> I just don't buy the nonsense of how you get something from nothing Its all about energy, entropy and time. I currently study this stuff (and have for the past few years) as my hobby. It is a hard problem, but I fully expect creating a single cell organism, from raw materials, will be a college biology project some day. In a few decades perhaps. Kind of like airplanes. Man tried for centuries to figure out flight. But now, humans traveling in the air is routine and the machines are very well understood... and continually being improved. Personally, "I believe" that life being created from nothing is a law of nature... like gravity. It is a direct consequence of entropy in an abundant energy environment.

To: steve harris who wrote (990393)

12/26/2016 9:42:37 PM

From: koan

Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1570807

The way to approach your question is by using logic. So you ask a question everyone has asked, how do you get something out of nothing. But then you point to that as a proof that there has to be a God.

I think that is what you are doing. Correct me if I am wrong.

But what is interesting is that you have not carried out your question to include god himself.

There is another step in there and you don't seem to see it. I'm curious how you're going to react when I point it out to you i.e will you accept the idea or what would be a counter argument?

If you say how do you get something out of nothing and then use that as an argument for their being a God, i.e. god had to create the universe,

then you have to ask: " where did the God come from"? And isn't that something out of nothing?

And furthermore, if you say well God has always been there, then why can't you also say the universe has always been there?

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I believe in evolution, I just don't buy the nonsense of how you get something from nothing. You explain to me how you get something from nothing by evolution, I'll be all ears koan.