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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10561)	1/4/1998 11:40:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

Emile; Have you lost it :-) Tell me of one person who was born a Christian I am talking about in the flesh. That's all I was saying or are you going to twist that around to. Grumble Grumble Alan

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10561)	1/4/1998 11:54:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christianity was created by man. God created the Jews. From Alan's post. Then you join with three men and purpose together to pray against him. These intents become more evil, just like the devil is also drawing in nastier people to post things demanding battle. I saw all this coming, and I agree with Alan about man creating "Christianity". The Romans, under one pagan in 275 who instituted official worship of the Sol Evictus, the central sun as "god" and Constantine, who took the entire Roman pantheon temple system and totally appropriated it into "Christianity" down to the tiniest detail, except of course the sacrifice of small children and virgins. That they did have to give up completely but they kept every other detail of their pagan existence. And that was the Roman Church. I agree with Alan. I rather like the Upper Room that was exported via the precious feet of Johanan, Simon, etc. That is the Christianity that keeps me sane, remembreing the days I was able to relive it almost to the letter for several glorious years. The rest of this would have quickly jettisoned my soul back into the world permanently and forever. Thank God I once knew something better than the man made rituals that pass for the Upper Room and the book of Acts, totally and completely buried and forgotten. Once again you took Alan's words that had definite meaning and totally distorted them. Now you all join together to pray your hatred of him to the Father. It will be very interesting what the Father's reaction will be, as before Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit I pray any judgment upon Alan and Nancy also upon myself, whatever it will be. Surely if we need to be rebuked, chastened and punished, He is more than capable of doing so. In the name of Jesus Christ I ask this. This is a thread gone mad and I must have nothing more to do with it. You have attracted the worst of the lurkers, not here to share in the knowledge of the Lord, but to drop their strange bombs and leave. The thread which began as a seeming atheists' joke had actually become a place to share Jesus Christ with people who know Him, and now has become a place where three bind together to pray down the others. Is this really happening?. When I think about how you have railed at Nancy and Alan for almost a month now how they don't know Him, they hate Him, they want to destroy Him and His people, well, it really is beginning to scare me. There simply cannot be this much divergence of reason and sanity among sane people. So either I'm nuts or you guys are, but something is very wrong here. That's all I know. If I have had any part in wrecking a place the Lord could enjoy with His people, then I do ask the forgiveness of God. Nancy and Alan, it is all too ugly to handle anymore. Sorry, but I guess I don't have the stomach for battle I thought I did. I think battle is best done with the children of darkness, when it is in-house there is something very disturbed about it, as you can see. I believe Brother Freyland would sweetly smile, say the Lord Jesus Christ bless you, and smile as he left.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10561)	1/4/1998 11:55:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile; Also I read the rest of your post I disagree with every word you said about me. You need to stop putting words in my mouth that I never spoke, your representation of me is insulting and a lie and I do not appreciate you violating me has a human being and my beliefs. Alan

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10561)	1/5/1998 2:18:00 AM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile, Greetings from Hawaii Assault of Jerusalem, A. D. 70 The punishment of the Jews and the destruction of Jerusalem, which had been prophesied by Moses and the prophets hundreds of years before, took place between the reigns of the Roman emperors Nero and Domitian. Being taxed very heavily by the Roman governor sent to rule over them, the Jews rose in rebellion against him. The governor of Syria marched with his army against Jerusalem, but did not try to take it at once, as he had not soldiers enough. In the meantime Simeon, bishop of Jerusalem, the successor of St. James, escaped with all the Christians who lived in the city, to Pella, a town among the hills, and thus they were providentially spared from suffering the dreadful fate of the Jews who remained in Jerusalem. -Foxes Christian Martyrs of the World. I post this to say: 1. A believer sees God's grace. 2. A non-believer........... -Chris