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To: Sdgla who wrote (4938)1/6/2017 9:39:31 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 358511
 
Re post abortion depression.. I have a step daughter that had one at 16. Observing her, as her step dad, 2 daughters and 10 years later I would beg to differ with your opinion. She found a way to deal with it by being a surrogate... twice. Both times she gave birth to twins and, as a result, has true extended families and the ability to feel (clearly my own opinion) some relief of guilt from her earlier decision.

I'm glad that worked out for her in the end.

Not sure, though, what your point is. How do you see that scenario informing public policy?



To: Sdgla who wrote (4938)1/6/2017 10:45:24 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 358511
 
Oh my.

The use of banning, is to be around congenial people who don't call names (like fool) in the middle of a conversation. If I could take my threads private, so you didn't have to be annoyed by your exclusion, I would- but that's not an option. I'm sorry their exclusiveness piques your bitterness. The only way to avoid that, would be to allow you on them, and that's an unpleasant bridge I will not cross. The banning that I use only proves you were not the kind of person I would want to be around- it has nothing to do with the persuasiveness of your argument. It speaks, rather, to the pleasantness of your company. The glee thing is just weird. I don't know what that means

nytimes.com

The study above shows that women recover. You cannot legislate from anecdote (unless you want to be irrational). It is sad your step daughter was depressed, but no doubt she had many reasons- and the events leading up to her unfortunate pregnancy and her own mental issues before the pregnancy, could have played a role.

I am not cavalier about abortion. I've never had one. I have 3 living children. No abortions. Not one. I don't approve of women who are not care full about their reproduction. I would not have an abortion (absent a fetal abnormality- they I definitely would). But I would not take that choice away from a woman and her doctor, because my views are not for everyone, and I, unlike you, would not take a choice I make, and inflict it on others- I will let other people decide for themselves. That is the sword you do not like. The sword that says, "While I personally do not like abortion, and would not choose it absent health issues or rape, I will not tell other women what to do with their bodies, nor would I want to intrude on the patient doctor relationship, either."

PS- I don't approve of divorce either. Divorce offends my sense of decency and I think it represents a moral failing- but I would not legislate that. So you see, despite my very strict moral ideas, I don't find it necessary to govern other people's behavior. There are many other things that offend me- that I would never legislate. My ideas about what is right and what is wrong govern my behavior- not the behavior of others.