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To: Lane3 who wrote (5260)	1/8/2017 3:14:00 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By TimF Respond to of 367619

>>That Obamacare is a right-of-center plan, especially when viewed relative to all viable alternatives, explains why it has always had so little political support from anyone. Liberals hate Obamacare because it is not single-payer, and feeds tens of millions of newly insured people to what they revile as a money-gobbling, profit-obsessed health insurance dragon. Conservatives hate Obamacare because it is the heavy hand of government choking whatever air is left out of the current, dysfunctional health insurance market — and because they cannot see beyond their political rage at President Obama to recognize their own ideas at the core of his health reform plan. Obamacare has always been a shabby political step-child. I honestly don't know where Republicans stand on a replacement plan. But the big gorilla in the process will be the 20 million people who were stuck onto Medicaid instead of on plans tomwhichnthey needed to have contributed. When you take these people off the public dole there will be very loud howling. The fact is that giving government benefits away is a serious mistake because it can never be withdrawn, politically speaking. The sysmtem hasn't worked well, but these people do have major medical now.

To: Lane3 who wrote (5260)	1/8/2017 3:38:56 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 367619

Thanks for that! If it had a link, I'd repost it in other places!

To: Lane3 who wrote (5260)	1/12/2017 8:42:35 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 367619

The fact that you can lay out different ideas, and have more of those ideas be to the left of Obamacare than to the right (to the extent claiming either makes a coherent and useful claim), doesn't mean Obamacare is "right of center. Stalinism / the New Economic Policy / the British Labor Party's post WWII policies / Bernie Sanders / Hillary Clinton / Ted Cruz So Hillary and even Bernie is "right of center"? The Heritage plan sounds familiar because it was the conservative alternative to government-driven plans like single-payer and Hillarycare, and because it became the basis for Mitt Romney’s health reform plan implemented in Massachusetts — which is turn was the basis for – for what? It was the basis for the plan one click from the far right of our spectrum of health reform models: President Obama’s plan, known as the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,” or the ACA, until it was branded — derisively by Republicans — as “Obamacare.” The fact that Heritage once supported it, doesn't make it "the conservative alternative"