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To: epicure who wrote (5706)	1/5/1998 1:05:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

The problem is, that is not a fair question. What about the right to do as you wish on your own personal property. Or do you discount property rights? It is not your right to go into a bar and breath air to your liking. I don't like fish, should I ban the smell of it in bars or Restaurants? Of course not. Could they get rid of it and still make a viable living. Maybe, maybe not. I'm alergic to hairspray, do I have the right to ban hairspray in all stores. After all I simply want to breathe perfect air. As if there is such a thing. The debate is not about air Alexa, its about FREEDOM. To deny it requires a vote. I freely choose to have a bar which allows smoking. You want to ban it. Be willing to put it to a vote. Michael

To: epicure who wrote (5706)	1/5/1998 1:12:00 AM
From: barb loucks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Bath houses, burlesque shows, casinos, pet shops, ski resorts are also places the public goes and are clearly labelled as such. Should I fear baths, partial nudity, gambling, animals or ski injuries, I simply avoid them. Why can there be no bars or restaurants clearly advertised as "smoking allowed"? One could simply then avoid them. Or am I missing something. It's the adult's freedom to choose that I feel is at risk. What I cannot avoid or cannot prevent my children seeing/hearing is advertising that puts a healthy spin on products that have the potential to be unhealthy, such as cigarettes, alcohol, etc. I think it should be banned or limited to non-prime-time adult shows/publications. (I also cannot avoid buildings that have inadequate ventilation systems where chemicals from cleaning supplies and carpets, etc., or cold germs have no where to go, but circulate through my air. But this issue doesn't get a lot of attention?) Anyway, enjoyed reading & participating in the debate, but my energy is beginning to wane. Alexa, I can't really argue with your point about "the right to breathe smoke-free air". I think the medical evidence is clear that smoking/breathing-in smoke is harmful. But I also think that a bar or restaurant should be able to choose to be a "smokers allowed" restaurant if they clearly advertise themselves as such. It really comes down to a protection of individual freedoms for me. Freedom to go or not go there, or work there, for those so inclined. Freedom to drink, or not to drink, be with those who do or go to an alcohol-free restaurant. Have a good night--I'm getting tired. Barb