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To: KyrosL who wrote (5570)1/10/2017 4:48:36 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 354611
 
Life expectancy of the US should not be compared to the world as a whole, as item 3 implies (excluding Africa from the statistics, but including desperately poor countries with low life expectancies like India etc.) but rather to developed countries.

That's not a fact at all, let alone an indisputable fact. Its an opinion. Don't get me wrong, I think its a reasonable opinion and you can develop solid arguments starting with that opinion, but you shouldn't label it a fact.

But while it is indeed a reasonable opinion, its of questionable relevance as a response to my post since my post was largely about comparing US life expectancy to that in other developed countries.

In 2014, the life expectancy of whites in the USA was 78.8 years. In France it was 81.8 years.

The relevant comparison would be French people in the US vs people in France. I don't have that data handy but if you want to break down by ethnic group in 2009 the life expectancy of Asian Americans was 86.5 and of Latinos 82.8 kff.org That compares rather favorably to the Asian and Pacfic Island region and to Latin America.

Of course Asia and Latin American include plenty of poor and middle wealth countries, you wanted to just limit things to wealthy countries -

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The Honolulu Heart Program studies began in 1965 with a cohort of 8006 Japanese American men and is still continuing. Much of what we know about the health and aging of Japanese Americans is based on the several hundred publications that have come out of the studies of these men, and now some women, as they age.

The cohort of Japanese men in the Honolulu Heart Program studies has a life expectancy that is longer than their counterparts in Japan, and Japan has the longest life expectancy of any country in the world.
web.stanford.edu
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White Americans in Minnesota worldlifeexpectancy.com had a life expectancy of 81.23, solid even for developed countries, its not like Minnesota has "single payer" or any of the other European systems of health care payment.
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All of that is just considering ethnicity which was only a small part of the post you replied to. Have any response to any other the other points?