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To: Lane3 who wrote (5603)	1/10/2017 7:35:08 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 364831

Yeah, in theory for unemployment they are supposed to be looking for work. But for me, we shutdown when the temps are below about 22 deg, or if too much snow on the ground (or falling) or if too heavy of rain (they work in light rain). This Dec and Jan so far, they've been off more than working. Only worked two weeks total in the last 7 weeks. If I'm stopped, most every other farmer is as well. So its reasonable they can't find other work. But the point remains that the total amount of farm work available is approximately fixed, and it does get done with the available labor, and in the context of typical weather. So this was my original point: The pool of labor which is available to do the farm work is there, and they will typically have a significant fraction of down time, and that down time is picked up by socializing the cost mostly to non-farmers, since the farmers are a small fraction of the population. To put some numbers too it, suppose the total hours I will give an employee is about 600 hrs spread over Dec - April, and supposing they then pick up another 200-300 hrs during that time because its not full time employment and the breaks are largely weather driven (although its not clear the source is an issue, I think they could get unemployment if the work just runs out too). The pool of available workers would most certainly shrink if the padding weren't there, because they aren't fools, they figure out their total effective compensation, and look for jobs elsewhere if not happy. So the question is why does society fill the gap for employers who have seasonal/temporary work needs? If society didn't do that, the average worker (assuming a brain) would start searching around for full time work. But padded by society, seasonal work ain't so bad. And the padding is significant, especially by the time you add up all the other social services like schools/education as I pointed out.