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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10578)	1/5/1998 9:10:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Respond to of 39621

Emile and Chris, Now everyone who has read this thread very closely can see your masterfull way of taking one sentence out of a paragraph and make it say what you want it to. This in my opinion is what you are doing to God as well, you misquote Him all the time to make Him fit your anger and understanding of a group of people. In case no one noticed the Jews are not the only ones that are against the Gospel and theirs according to scripture is temporary but Emile has spent according to him years studying their fall. Even you Chris if I was in Hawaii I would not find the time to argue with someone but you even gloat over the 70Ad dissaster in the beautifull setting of Gods handwork.Your question is so vague it does not deserve an answer. If you are going to continue to ask this question you will have to make it more clear and even then we may reserve an answer to people that take things as Emile obviously did with Rachmiel Frylands post when I exposed it and continues to twist Alans posts. I want a specific scripture you are using to say the Jews are from Judah then we will go from there. You see I know your doctrine and how you read all these elaborate things into different titles like Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven alot of these terms are used interchangeably and don't hold any mysterios meaning in my opinion. Now I have a question as well. What about Daniel? He did not have a sacrificial system functioning during his visit in Babylon. Why would God tell him that he would be raised up to recieve his allotted inheritance at the end. I believe that their sins are atoned while they are under oppression and hence the nations have facilitated that oppression throughout their stay in the Diaspora.I know I will never convince you that God has not forsaken His people, but maybe we could for His sake come to an agreement to disagree. You do not have to save Alan and I the Lord can handle that. I have had some friends that I thought were hopeless their lives were such a mess and we stopped communicating. Years later I saw them and they were on fire for the Lord and in good health with great jobs, so remember it is Him who will complete the work He has begun in all of us. There is no question that we are all grieving Him at this point. Your sharing all this negative things about one race of people is ridiculous at best and serves no purpose for the Kingdom and again the real difference is the timetable we understand from the Bible and it really will not matter who is right and who is wrong for God will do His will regardless of what anyone thinks thay understand from scripture.Your timetable in the Kingdom now doctrine forces you to deal with Israel for they just can not fit so we have to get rid of them. The Lord has set stumbling blocks and I believe this doctrine fell flat on that rock, but again He loves you and will continue His work in all of us as He is Mighty and Great and we are all desperatley wicked. This started because you accused Alan of being proudful because he shared that he was a Jewish believer and you thought it was unnecessary for him to say he was Jewish and somehow that was proudfull. Well I believe the fact that he is Jewish would force your doctrine to confront the ones it hurts , maybe that was your intent to break down Alans imagined pride. The only pride we have is that our God has kept His Covenants and we are proof of it and felt it should encourage people and never in our wildest dream anticipate it would bring so much anger and determination to prove to us that a group of people were evil beyond reality. Nancy

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (10578)	1/5/1998 11:05:00 AM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Hi Emile, <<The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was the end of the old covenant and the end of God-ordained Old Testament Temple Judaism.>> It's a small point and not worth arguing about but the Old Covenant was ended when Jesus died on the cross and the veil of the Temple was torn from top to bottom symbolizing that now all could enter the Holy of Holies through the Temple of the Holy Spirit in each born again believer. Matt. 27: 50-53. Bob