To: TimF who wrote (5803 ) 1/12/2017 3:32:19 PM From: Lane3 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 357794 "Christian libertarian" isn't an oxymoron at all. Its covering two different things Christian being religious and libertarian being political. When I chatted with a couple of them, that's what I inferred. Although they didn't explain it that way and I had to read between the lines, my sense was that they were libertarian in the earthly realm but not in the heavenly one. It's hard for me to understand how one could manage that kind of internal disconnect, assuming one is sincere about both. I can see how a conservative who doesn't like big government and particularly doesn't like big government run by liberals would want power decentralized, say, to the states or how a conservative business would want to get out from under regulations. And I can see how such a person would call identify as libertarian. But that's a political label for a set of political views, a label of convenience, if you will, for a narrow application. Which is not the same thing as being libertarian to the core, having an utterly egalitarian, non-hierarchical world view. I am so libertarian in my soul that I can't stand any deference shown me, even something as simple as being called ma'am, even by subordinates in the office chain of command. My chunk of the chain of command was not commanding at all. And I have the same attitude wrt powerful people. We're all just folks. So, the reason I call oxymoron is because the core of Christianity is deference, big time. One submits to a deity. One identifies as a servant to that deity, otherwise, one isn't a Christian. Now, I don't do submission. No way. It matters not what realm I'm in. I could never have peace of mind or even a coherent world view if I had to do mega-deference part of the time and do liberty part of the time. The contradiction would rip me apart. I recognize that there are lots of takes on libertarianism and Christian libertarians are entitled to theirs. Only saying that the notion doesn't sit right with me.