To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (128533 ) 1/18/2017 10:59:48 AM From: bart13 1 RecommendationRecommended By Sdgla
Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218135 If any of the SI posters would know how poisonous and carcinogenic this smog is few will make fun of climate change including Bart. Oh good grief Haim, that was incredibly insulting and just plain wrong, as I've explained many times before! Where have I EVER even vaguely implied that bad smog can't be or isn't poisonous or carcinogenic? Do you really hate other proven and provable views about AGW that you have to go off like that? You've never read any of my comments about how ridiculous and disgusting it was that China got away without participating in the Kyoto agreements and that karma has struck them? Or how many efforts I made to minimize silver in the effluents from my photo lab when I owned it? I lived in California during the 60s in the midst of some of its very worst periods of smog, roughly similar to that Beijing picture that you posted with visibility of 2 blocks or less. Do you really think, as you're implying, that I approved of it or liked it? Even the UAH satellite based global temp charts that I've posted many times do show that global temps have gone up since 1979... but a whole lot less than NOAA charts (and yes, I do make fun of that fact based problem in the AGW religion), and even skepticalscience.com (one of the online bibles of AGW promoters) admits that the UAH based work and algorithms are sound. Do you actually believe that it's impossible that coal plants can't ever be cleaned up at any price or level of effort, let alone whether or not it makes economic sense or not (given how much money has been pissed away on things like bridges to nowhere etc etc, and how many existing miners lives will be ruined or bankrupted by losing their life long jobs)? Where's the gradient approach or help for them in the US, let alone China? And do note that I do believe that coal is far from a good energy source and should be phased out, contrary to your probable opinion... or implied accusation that I'm pro pollution. That's just plain disgusting and extremely insulting... but not surprising from someone who apparently believes that all science is settled!