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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (128555)1/18/2017 2:00:47 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone  Respond to of 218145
 
No balance on earth with an exploding population BOOM. No balance today.

AGW and 8 Billion people are not compatible today, so I am sure 10 Billion population is
unfixable.

Imperative to grow more farm animals and YUGE increase in crop production.

"balance that existed before on earth was broken by human activity, if by growing more farm animals, spreading more fertilizers for better crops,"

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Fertilized World - National Geographic Magazine

ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/05/fertilized-world/charles-text



If we don't watch out, agriculture could destroy our planet. ... Corn, wheat, and rice, the fast-growing crops on which humanity depends for survival, are ... That nitrogen fertilizermore than a hundred million tons applied worldwide every ... Some is eaten, in the form of grain, by either humans or farm animals, but is then ...



To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (128555)1/19/2017 1:25:50 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu2 Recommendations

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Every month, it seems, we are confronted with fresh data that shines a light on the perilous state of our natural environment. Ninety-two percent of people worldwide live in places where air pollution levels exceed suggested safety limits, at least 1.8 billion people still lack reliable access to safe drinking water, and 2016 was the warmest year on record?—?around 1.2°C warmer than pre-industrial levels. Meanwhile, our oceans and forests aren’t faring much better.

As highlighted by the latest edition of the Global Risks Report, the mismanagement of our environment is the one global threat that just refuses to go away.

And while there are clear signs that the world is fighting back, there is still a great deal of work to do to avert climate catastrophe. We asked global leaders gathering in Davos?—?what should our priorities be? Here’s what they had to say:

https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/how-can-we-avoid-a-climate-change-catastrophe-al-gore-and-davos-leaders-respond-fede07baabe2#.tytwkik9i



To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (128555)1/22/2017 10:54:12 AM
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Bart my sincere apologies, if I wronged you.

Accepted, and thank you very much. I just couldn't believe that you went that far towards hugely insulting me if you had been aware of the bigger picture of my opinions and actions over the years, and also given your general care in not posting inflammatory items and calm demeanor.

While I'm very much anti human created pollution and have been since the 60s, I'm also very far from convinced that global warming is primarily caused by human causes and GHG, especially given that the last almost 30 years of IPCC global temperature forecasts having been so wrong (especially the 1990 one that started all the fear mongering) and being based on global warming being based on human causes (and to the best of my knowledge ignoring causes like soot). If the AGW theories are right, the forecasts should have been much closer to actual reality. And the best guesses of long term global temperature do show that it has been much higher than today.

I'm also quite aware of the differences between bituminous and other types of coal like anthracite or Powder River (vs. Illinois Basin) sourced coal. There also does exist much better anti-pollution technology than is mostly used today in coal mining, refining and burning. That does *not* mean that I favor coal, it's just more possible uses of pollution mitigation technologies to sanely ease a transition while zapping some pollution, much like retraining of existing coal workers.

I do also agree with most elements of your paper, especially the parts that deal with solar activity and the changing earth magnetic field. I believe that various solar effects are not well covered in the climate models - we just plain don't know enough in the areas. I'm not convinced that biomass is workable on a cost basis, and also remain quite skeptical on the whole carbon tax area given "establishment" issues including money motivation and a heavy fear mongering PR presence (resulting in the broadly believed lies about a 97% scientific consensus, no MSM attention to the UAH satellite based temperature records), etc.

I also remain skeptical about AGW given my work with Prof. Wheeler's weather cycles and the appearances of cycles of cold weather over history, like some recent papers that cover cycles which include the relatively recent Maunder Minimum and discuss an impending relative ice age.

I can't tell for sure if you believe that the science is settled, but I suspect not? Quite recent papers do show that we didn't know all we thought we knew about the appendix and its "settled science", after all. -g-

Lastly, could I be incorrect in my opinions about AGW? Yes of course as I've noted before here, but until actual facts show up that handle my concerns, I'm standing pat... while hoping that the very real pollution problems are addressed and handled effectively with *real* science while minimizing 1%er greed & power freak interference and know-it-all folk effects.