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To: TimF who wrote (998654)	2/3/2017 10:01:20 PM
From: Bilow	1 Recommendation Recommended By Thomas M. Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583677

Hi TimF; Re: " For now I'll simply say NATO in no way resembles and empire."; First, it's a matter of definitions. Second, it's a matter of which side of the border you're looking at it. NATO is rather scary to Russia. Re: "Somewhat questionable both in terms of accuracy and in terms of relevance."; As an example of the accuracy / relevance, the alliance with Britain made Poland (1938) more sure of itself than it otherwise would have been. If Britain hadn't backed them up, perhaps they'd have given the German territories back to Germany. Nowadays, at least in the West, everything is blamed on Germany but that's a matter of the victors writing the history books, or at least being careful about what they include and what they do not. The reason no one objected to Stalin taking the eastern half of Poland is that Poland had taken that land from Ukraine / USSR in the 1919-1921 war. It was still populated with Ukrainian speakers, not Poles. If you truly think that alliance with a great power has no effect on the foreign affairs proclivities of a small country then you're too stupid for me to talk to, LOL. Re: "India was part of the British empire for a long time too."; Not at all comparable. India and Britain are not adjacent. India did not have vast numbers of British living there. And India was not the original homeland of the British people. Re: "Russia specifically promised to do so in exchange for the Ukraine giving up its nukes.": That agreement also required that the West to not meddle in the Ukraine. Instead, the West arranged for a coup to replace a pro-Russian government with a pro-NATO government. Re: "Because the Russian empire, then later to an even greater extent the USSR pushed out others and settled many Russians there."; So are you now going to argue that the US should give Texas back to Mexico? Sorry, but that's not how it's done. Re: "I never suggested any such thing. I said doing so wouldn't be imperial and it wasn't aggression." We're probably in substantial agreement on this except for dictionary definitions and crap not worth arguing about. -- Carl