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To: Lane3 who wrote (9539)	2/4/2017 2:15:26 PM
From: i-node	2 Recommendations Recommended By Dracin72 Lane3 Respond to of 354429

>> There are people both red and blue who are kind to animals, keep their word, and wouldn't dream of cheating at cards. And are well-meaning in their work as politicians. Democrats, like Republicans, almost universally have good intentions and often have the same objectives. It truly is a question of different understandings as to what will achieve particular objectives in the best, most efficient ways.

To: Lane3 who wrote (9539)	2/4/2017 6:43:40 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 354429

>>>"There are people both red and blue who are kind to animals, keep their word, and wouldn't dream of cheating at cards."<<< Had a telephone conversation with an elderly friend that went into the wee hours last night. She is a Bahá'i member. Her major interest in life is animal rights and protection. So, at one point, I was claiming there is a bell curve of goodness to badness in every group that claims to have some principled basis. She asked how that could include atheists. So I remembered my history of living on a commune (40+ years ago). Our diet was sort of vegan even though I hadn't heard the word vegan up to that point in life. There was never a discussion of religion except as a reference on how some of us had grown up. I pointed out that most were atheists and that the common way of looking at World circumstance was to give religions credit for war, greed, corruption, oppression and brutal cruelty. She could not disagree and I even had to pull her back and remind her there are saintly people in her group ... although just the usual bell curve type few.

To: Lane3 who wrote (9539)	2/4/2017 6:57:38 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 354429

Yes I know there are people that have a different philosophy than I do that are kind to animals and in fact are very decent people. But certain issues simply trump all other issues. People always talk about the southern hospitality, but tell that to the African American; for 100 years the South refused to end segregation. Segregation was such a horrible thing that it simply trumps anything else that is wonderful those people did i.e. if they are racist. Hitler himself was very kind animals, but he had no trouble killing 6 million Jews. How do you explain the fact that the entire South refused to desegregate until the liberals and the African-Americans joined hands and forced them to do it in 1964? And they had to be forced to do it, they were not going quietly into the night. What greater good did anyone in the South do to mitigate being a racist, or refusing to speak up? The people in the South tortured, yes tortured the African-American for all of history until they were forced to stop in 1964. And even then, they decided to become Republicans so they could continue on with their racist behavior as much as possible. Of course they bit off their nose to spite their face because the Republicans rolled them. Message #9539 from Lane3 at 2/4/2017 1:21:26 PM I constantly found him either lying , slanting the truth, or defending the indefensible You do recognize, don't you, that there is a difference between disagreeing, no matter how profoundly, with someone and him being evil incarnate? Rhetorical question. There are people both red and blue who are kind to animals, keep their word, and wouldn't dream of cheating at cards.