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To: Katelew who wrote (9655)	2/5/2017 6:01:32 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356113

It’s Official: White Folks in Red States are the Biggest Food Stamp ‘Moochers’ in the Country! aattp.org Distribution of the Nonelderly with Medicaid by Race/Ethnicity Timeframe: 2015 kff.org

To: Katelew who wrote (9655)	2/5/2017 6:57:06 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 356113

That was a great, accurate, and patient response to Koan. One of the worst examples of blacks self-destruction in the country is in Pine Bluff, AR (where I maintained my deceased brother's CPA practice for a few years). This is a predominantly black town, lots of racial interaction, but black on black crime is rampant. Last year the murder rate in this town of 49,000 was 7x the national average. This leaves it as the second-most dangerous area in the country, after Detroit. It didn't have to be. There were jobs. There was industry. There was a great medical and health care community (but a single hospital, which due to the inordinate Medicaid volumes, requires massive subsidies to operate). Our accounting firm had a large number of black business owners as clients. But in the 80s, white flight began in response to the crime. My cousin, who owned a couple houses in a once-popular neighborhood, left as he saw gunfights on Cherry Street (the main drag) routinely. Today, the city is in full collapse mode and will end up approaching 100% black, no doubt, and a place people will drive by and not through. (Already is). I will guarantee you there is more taxpayer money per capita flowing into this town than anywhere else around here. You cannot make these problems better with taxpayer dollars. And they simply do not understand it.

To: Katelew who wrote (9655)	2/5/2017 7:07:03 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 356113

And you cannot understand the African American poverty in the south is due to a history of slavery and segregation. The south gave them inferior schools and prevented them from even making a living, not to mention the damage racism does to a person. They had no money or power to invest and crackers keeping them down at every turn. Cheating them, intimidating them, etc. And I' tell you how stupid and cruel the south was, they refused to integrate. It was he African American backed up by the liberals that forced it on them kicking and screaming about it!!. Why did we have to force basic human decency on you???? Too stupid to understand it, or just too mean? Message #9655 from Katelew at 2/5/2017 5:48:48 PM <<Why do they continue to vote for people who hurt them?>> Who is the "they" you are referencing? I know you think people in the south are stupid and you never miss an opportunity to run us down. You do this because you don't understand or think about the demographics of the southern states. So let's start with statistics. Gross measurements put southern states at the bottom of the pecking order with regard to wealth, hence the south is the poorest section of the country. Gross measurements of educational achievements put southern states at the bottom of the pecking order with regard to schooling, hence the south is considered the most uneducated section of the country. Gross measurements of welfare put southern states at the top of the pecking order, hence the south is the section of the country most dependent on government handouts. These statistical measurements make you wonder why the South votes Republican, why we vote for the people who hurt us, impoverish us, keep us down. You think southerners would be better off if only we voted Democrat. That's why I asked who is the "they"? The answer is there is no "they". There are three large demographic groups that make up the south--White, African-American, and a growing Hispanic one. Statistically speaking, white southerners stack up just fine in terms of income and education with the rest of the country. My state of Arkansas, a small state in terms of population, sends a significant number of its white residents on to Ivy League schools. We produced a POTUS and several notable business leaders. White people in the south are primarily business people and farming people, not government workers. Therefore it makes perfect sense that we would vote Republican. White southerners are NOT voting against their own interests What makes my state fall into the category of poor, uneducated, and disproportionate users of welfare is our black population. It's not that we're doing things to keep them down and oppressed. There are the same achievement gaps between blacks and whites in every state. The problem is that the south has so darn many blacks. In my state it's close to 25%. I think it's closer to 35% and higher in MS, AL, and GA. Maybe LA, too. It's the disproportionate numbers of blacks that drag down the overall measurements of the general population. Look at any state in the US. The higher the percentage of blacks, the lower the measurements of success. Even health statistics are skewed. Quite frankly, Koan, southern blacks are a ball and chain, and I wish they would all move to your state, lol. Seriously, I vote for letting you and your democrat friends deal with it. What's your percentage of blacks in Alaska? Under 5% I'm guessing. What are the demographics of the entire northwest? Sadly, blacks sap state resources that could go to building infrastructure that might attract more businesses to the south. They also sap the energies of public school teachers who work hard just to control misbehavior and low test scores of blacks. This leaves white students and brighter black students to fend for themselves. Blacks all seem to be on Medicaid which means they soak up all the openings in nursing homes. I could go on and on and put myself in a really bad mood, so I'll stop. The main thing is that I want to suggest that the next time you feel the urge to ignorantly defame the South, keep in mind that it is YOUR VOTERS you are maligning. Southern blacks are Democrats. It's their poor performance as a group that makes the south look bad. Oddly enough, if they all voted, there's enough of them to turn the South Democrat. So what's going on? Apparently they don't care enough to get out and vote. Maybe they are lazy or maybe they think life is pretty good for them here. I say that because actually race relations are considered by experts to be good in the south. At any rate, the stuff you say and have said for years about the South just makes you look superficial. You overgeneralize. I know you value education. If you want to appear educated, get familiar with all the sides to an issue.