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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Katelew who wrote (9890)	2/7/2017 6:30:15 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 361987

" free speech has to be protected" He was given the right to speak. If 10,000 people want to peacefully sit in around a venue to stop him, that's his problem. No buffer zone; They definitely impede the message. Protesters just have to leave enuf room to keep the fire marshal happy. "Buffer zones around abortion clinics that restrict access to public sidewalks are an unconstitutional restriction on speech, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday. The zones were designed to keep protesters at bay." The buffer zones “definitely impeded our message,” rt.com When a few hundred anarchists show up and violently ruin it for everybody, that's a problem for all of us. There's a group of them in the Oakland/Berkeley area. It would be nice if the police can catch them. Tear Gas, Windows Broken, Clashes With Police As Anarchists Hijack Peaceful Protest March Through Berkeley sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

To: Katelew who wrote (9890)	2/8/2017 1:24:37 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361987

You do know that Saul Alinsky spent his life helping the poor. This demonizing of a great man by the right wing who know nothing of his good work drives me bonkers. Alinsky was like Bernie, dedicated to helping his fellow human being. The right wingers let the rich lead them around by the nose with their lies and propaganda. Just like Trump and Kelly Ann do! The reason the rich/plutocrats hate Alinsky is because he tried to give the poor better living conditions that the rich might have to contribute to. They hate Alinsky just like they hate unions or anything that gives the working person some power. "His organizing skills were focused on improving the living conditions of the poor." The election of Trump is the perfect metaphor for why the RW hates Alinsky. They have bad judgment, or lack a heart. I never know which for sure. en.wikipedia.org Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 – June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing. He is often noted for his 1971 book Rules for Radicals. In the course of nearly four decades of political organizing, Alinsky received much criticism, but also gained praise from many public figures. His organizing skills were focused on improving the living conditions of poor communities across America. In the 1950s, he began turning his attention to improving conditions in the black ghettos, beginning with Chicago's and later traveling to other ghettos in California, Michigan, New York City, and a dozen other "trouble spots". His ideas were adapted in the 1960s by some U.S. college students and other young counterculture-era organizers, who used them as part of their strategies for organizing on campus and beyond. [5] Time magazine wrote in 1970 that "It is not too much to argue that American democracy is being altered by Alinsky's ideas." [6] Conservative author William F. Buckley Jr. said in 1966 that Alinsky was "very close to being an organizational genius". [7]