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To: RMF who wrote (10309)	2/11/2017 12:58:29 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 361278

There has been a Catholic school here for many, many years and it has a reputation for turning out excellent students as well. I don't know if that is characteristic or just happenstance.

To: RMF who wrote (10309)	2/11/2017 1:55:38 AM
From: Heywood40	1 Recommendation Recommended By altair19 Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 361278

When I was in high school, the girls from the catholic schools were generally way hornier than girls from the public schools. It's like they had to try all those puberty sins out as they learned about them, confess they did them, get forgiven, go do some more research and try out some more. I was there for their experimentation. They're all on Facebook now.

To: RMF who wrote (10309)	2/11/2017 12:50:43 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 361278

I don't even know where to start on that post. But I do agree the purpose of education is to educate not indoctrinate, but you have it turned around, indoctrination is all the church can do as it is a dogma. The church has no facts or logic to back up its claims. It is all faith which is an euphemism for "we have no facts". The best form of education for society is a democratic public school system. By that I mean every community has a school board, elected by the people. That school board appoints principles, who then hire teachers to teach the various subjects. That will give the child a good sound education. The best possible considering the entire country. By having elected school boards we ensure a democratic education whereby all the children get a wide range of perspectives and it ensures that there will be no dogma. But churches, Catholic or otherwise, are nothing but dogma. All they can do is indoctrinate their followers because they have no facts. Religion is not a real thing, it is make believe. There has never been one shred of hard evidence for any of the 10,000 or so religions on earth. It is just something that people make up and believe. That is why they call it faith i.e. having faith that this is true without any evidence. I want my children to be educated in a school based on facts and reason, not make believe. Putting education in a place of make believe dogma is terrible way to start out a kids life. It confuses them about reality right from the beginning. Besides that, the church had 2000 years to produce a civilized society and they failed terribly. Ask any historian and they will tell you, that civilization didn't begin with the church, it began with the ancient Greeks who developed the written language, produced books and then discussed things like ethics and democracy. Neither of which came from the church. And after the Greeks were destroyed, the church kept us in the dark ages for 1500 years until Gutenberg developed the printing press and people started producing books and reading again and out of that came the age of Enlightenment. The foundation of modern civilization is based on science and reason. It is called the age of reason. There is no reason, or facts when it comes to religion. Nothing. That is also the reason the Christian church in the 1800s went from a literal interpretation of the Bible to an allegorical interpretation of the Bible because so many things in the Bible were shown to be untrue. But on top of that, the Bible is a very primitive simplistic book that reflects the thinking a couple thousand years ago. The best way for the Bible to make sense to anybody is simply to substitute the word tribal chief for God and then it will make perfect sense as a historical document.. The worst thing we can do is turn our educational system over to any church. Message #10309 from RMF at 2/11/2017 12:39:40 AM I got an answer to the Charter School thing. FUND Catholic Schools and Christian Schools. My Wife's been teaching in a Catholic School for about 40 years now. The students from her school score higher than most of the Public Schools. And they don't require students to be Catholic. There's a Catholic School system in pretty much every city already and it's being wasted since parental costs have had to rise so much. Even other religious schools could be funded. The idea is to EDUCATE, not INDOCTRINATE.

To: RMF who wrote (10309)	2/11/2017 3:11:20 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361278

FUND Catholic Schools and Christian Schools. Right. Because the Founding Father's really screwed up with that separation of church and state thing.