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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (999825)	2/11/2017 11:41:12 AM
From: Land Shark	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574333

Wonder what flamingo tastes like? Not much meat on the legs... Maybe like chicken, probably more like fish. At least he didn't say they're eating their babies. Maybe that's the next post.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (999825)	2/11/2017 11:42:48 AM
From: James Seagrove	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB Mick Mørmøny Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574333

Swedes? The Kingdom of Sweden is a unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy with a highly evolved economy and educated populace. You can't compare on any level to Venezuela, at least if you had some semblance of sense floating around in your head you wouldn't.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (999825)	2/11/2017 1:51:40 PM
From: Taro	4 Recommendations Recommended By Investor Clouseau locogringo Mick Mørmøny miraje Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574333

You liberals are still living in your dreams about Sweden, the socialistic paradise! That experiment "Folkhemmet" was replaced by a modern society very similar to something between The Netherlands and Switzerland 30+ years ago. Not too far from Germany, but these days I refrain from making that comparison for obvious reasons. In the matter of immigrants ad libitum, Sweden, unfortunately is - or rather was since they wised up already - similar to the German disaster. Quite successful, but hardly anything even remotely similar to your sick ideals Cuba and Venezuela. So please stop promoting Sweden as the evidence of a successful implementation of your socialistic ideas anywhere on Earth. It does not work, and everybody except the very hardest core liberals know that.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (999825)	2/11/2017 2:03:14 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574333

In 2002, the Swedish Institute of Trade reported in 2002 that “the median household income in Sweden at the end of the 1990s was the equivalent of $26,800, compared with a median of $39,400 for U.S. households.” If Sweden were introduced to the U.S. as a new state, it would rank as the poorest according to these standards. This is in light of the fact that these numbers are gross values — before taxes — and Sweden has some of the highest taxes in the world. Indeed, Swedes have such a low median income that they fare worse than the lowest American socio-economic class, working-class black males. ........ Swedish education only looks good in the New York Times What America shares with Sweden is a universal free education system — and what Sweden shares with America is a system that is decayed and on the verge of financial collapse. Sweden pays an average of $7,000 a year per student. Swedish children must attend nine years of elementary school, but high school and college are optional. To encourage high school attendance, the government pays students about $100 a month. By college, many of the young people have been programmed to join the unemployed and collect benefits. Some high school students actually teach at the elementary schools, while the colleges offer a curriculum similar to that offered in Swedish high schools fifteen years ago. As a further way to disguise unemployment figures, many welfare recipients are required to take Mickey Mouse courses at college, so that they can be recorded as “students,” rather than “unemployed,” thereby perfectly illustrating the general sense of misuse of the Swedish education system. ... mrconservative.com

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (999825)	2/11/2017 2:06:17 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1574333

... Mark Perry of the American Enterprise Institute has put together some apples-to-apples data suggesting the answer is no. At least if the goal is more economic output and higher living standards. Most European countries (including Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Belgium) if they joined the US, would rank among the poorest one-third of US states on a per-capita GDP basis, and the UK, France, Japan and New Zealand would all rank among America’s very poorest states, below No. 47 West Virginia, and not too far above No. 50 Mississippi. Countries like Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Portugal and Greece would each rank below Mississippi as the poorest states in the country. And here’s the table Mark prepared. As a quick caveat, it’s worth noting that there’s not a one-to-one link between gross domestic product and actual living standards. Some of the economic activity in energy-rich states such as North Dakota, for instance, translates into income for shareholders living elsewhere in America. But if you look at the US average ($54,629), it obviously is higher than economic output in European nations. And if you prefer direct measures of living standards, then data on consumption from the OECD also shows that America is considerably more prosperous. None of this suggests that policy in America is ideal ( it isn’t) or that European nations are failures (they still rank among the wealthiest places on the planet). I’m simply making the modest — yet important — argument that Europeans would be more prosperous if the fiscal burden of government wasn’t so onerous. And I’m debunking the argument that we should copy nations such as Denmark by allowing a larger government in the United States (though I do want to copy Danish policies in other areas, which generally are more pro-economic liberty than what we have in America). Shifting to a different topic, Mark Perry also takes a shot at Donald Trump, who seems to think that other nations are “winning” over America because of trade. Maybe we should remind him that Mexico and China, as US states, would both be far below our poorest state — Mississippi — by 51% and 62% respectively for GDP per capita; and Japan would be barely above our poorest state — Mississippi. Using GDP per capita as a measure of both economic output per person and of a country’s standard of living, America is winning quite handsomely. Excellent point. It’s a sign of American prosperity that we can afford to buy more from other nations than they can afford to buy from us. It’s also a sign of prosperity that, when they do earn American dollars, foreigners often choose to invest those funds in the American economy (remember, the necessary flip side of a “trade deficit” is a “capital surplus”). .... fee.org