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To: Lane3 who wrote (10386)	2/11/2017 3:51:50 PM
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The Democrats' Immigration Problem(s) 1079 Feb 10, 2017 9:30 AM EST By Megan McArdle ...Josh Barro has laid out at length exactly what that problem is. Briefly: Democratic arguments about immigration mostly aren’t arguments. The party has relied on opposing Trump’s more outrageously exaggerated claims about the criminality and all-around character flaws of immigrants. That’s fine, as far as it goes -- but as November showed, it doesn’t go far enough. The core problem is that Democrats didn’t really make an affirmative argument for an overhaul to U.S. immigration policy that might appeal to voters. Instead, they talked a lot about what great people immigrants are, and how much they benefit from migration. Unfortunately, the clearest group of beneficiaries from this policy -- people who want to migrate, but haven’t yet gotten a green card -- can’t vote.... bloomberg.com

To: Lane3 who wrote (10386)	2/11/2017 4:01:14 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 360632

I expect it varies from school to school, but think about it, in religious schools you have this educational system right smack in the middle of absolute mythical dogma. Why would you want to even do that? And we should not be teaching kids the earth is 6,000 years old. And how hard do they emphasize humans evolved from monkeys? We know exactly how old the earth is. But kids in an educational setting being surrounded by a monolithic institution of nothing but make believe is going to just confuse them i.e. teaching myth next to facts; and research shows that i.e. kids raised in a religious environment have trouble distinguishing reality later in life. But also, what did the church ever do for civilization except hold it back with their laws against thinking i.e. heresy. The church is nothing more than a primitive habit that exercised the most terrible hegemony for centuries. Had the Greeks survived we would be 1,000 years ahead of where we are now. Those were real teachers. Our founding fathers knew that well and is why they were very clear about separation of church and state. What is wrong with democratically elected schoolteachers? Anyone that doesn't like that, propose a better system. I, my family and friends have tended a lot of schools in our life and I've never heard a single person say that the schools or teachers are inferior. That usually comes from people who fail. Among my friends ironically, it is my uneducated friends that home school and the educated friends who support public education. Schools and teachers cannot be any better than the human condition. Public schools are sort of like democracy, not perfect, but better than any other system we know of. The right wing often hates public schools, because they are sort of anti intellectual to begin with. They don't really have an alternative system that's been proven to be better. They want vouchers so they can send their kids to religious schools.