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To: koan who wrote (11529)	2/19/2017 6:41:00 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362953

If you want to see the failure of God's, all you have to do is look at the Middle East. Every country in the Middle East, except the Kurds are controlled by theocracies or military dictatorships. And nowhere are the societies constructed and run according to modern knowledge and social science. Tens of millions of refugees pouring out of the Middle East because of all the wars and killing and tragedy, poverty and disorganization greater than any other place on earth. That is what a theocracy gets you. I'll tell you what atheism get you, it gets you the well run Nordic countries, Iceland and much of Europe, where most of the population are atheists, and places like South Korea, Taiwan and Japan where their religious beliefs are more spiritual and philosophical and so do not conflict with science or educational, or reason in any way shape or form. Religion had 2,000 years to work at creating good societies and failed horribly. The Kurds are the least religious and the most democratic modern and humane and have gender equality and the most educated. How much clearer does it need to be?

To: koan who wrote (11529)	2/19/2017 6:45:15 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362953

>>>"What does that mean. I doubt you have any idea. "<<< Of course I have an idea, I wrote it. I can explain it simply but I doubt you will get it. So let's start with the Universe. We call it the temporal universe. Temporal is related to time. Things that have a beginning, a middle, and an end. Or, that are subject to change. Non-temporal refers to eternity, being but non-changing. >>>"If not a thing, then what."<<< A non-temporal being that can only be described in terms that are limitless "omnipotent, omnipresent, all knowing." >>>"They say he created us in his image, that is a thing-lol."<<< "They" say a lot of things and interpret those things as it suits their purpose, as do you. You are part of the ''They." It perpetuates you illusions and justifies the hundreds of religious factions.