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To: Grainne who wrote (14928)	1/6/1998 1:22:00 AM
From: JF Quinnelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

So wouldn't a childhood full of Catholicism, and an obviously (to me) delusional mind set where Hitler thinks he is the Chosen One, and God is sending him messages that he is in danger, and saving him from that, support my position, not yours? I don't know where you got your ideas about Christian teachings, but a claim to be another Messiah certainly isn't acceptable in any Christian creed. It's blasphemy, and qualifies Hitler as an anti-christ maybe, and certainly a heretic. The text you cited pointed out that Hitler rejected the Catholicism of his youth. weren't you originally asserting that in the case of the Nazis (as well as the Communists), brutality was possible on such vast scales because of the godlessness of their leaders, or something similar to that? You had been arguing that the atrocities of the Inquisition and witch-burnings characterized Christianity. Del was arguing for the superiority of atheism. Hakeem claims that Nazism and Christianity are closely linked. I never said why the Communist and Nazi regimes did what they did. But since the church was being held accountable for atrocities done by nominally Christian regimes, I thought it would be instructive to look at the behavior of some self-described non-christian and anti-christian regimes. Communism was militantly atheist. Nazism was concocted out of "racial science", Nietzsche, Heidegger, and German paganism. I don't know that regimes hostile to Christianity have to be murderous, but these certainly were. The Romans were pagans, and for the most part they weren't anything like these modern regimes. As Chesterton points out, their gods were mostly benign entities like the "god of the hearth, or of the gatepost". Not monstrous gods feasting on mass-murder. As far as Hakeem, it's evident that he leaves out all of the Nazi material that is inconvenient for his story; the Nazis sought to subvert the church, and considered Christianity tainted by its Jewish origins.