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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1003880)	3/4/2017 5:36:27 PM
From: locogringo	1 Recommendation Recommended By FJB Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586207

What would people be saying if 17 intelligence agencies That is still FAKENEWS no matter how many times you post it, and no matter how many times it is refuted. SEAN HANNITY (HOST): We've been told 17 of our intelligence agencies are sure that the computers of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee were hacked by Russians, under the direct orders of Putin himself. The only problem is, we don't have 17 intelligence agencies, so now we've got fake news stories to bolster the claim of the president and the Democrats losing the election. and......... The recent propaganda alleging that "17 intelligence agencies" produced a consensus of determinations that concluded Russia hacked the election is FAKE NEWS. What happened is that 2 agencies produced a report in which they said they "spoke on behalf of" our 17 intelligence agencies when they state THEIR OWN beliefs on the matter. All that means is that those 2 agency heads are at the top of the food chain in government intelligence and get to be the official voice of the "intelligence community." So, in other words, they were just irrationally appealing to the authority of 17 agencies under them that had nothing to do with the investigation at all. It's does NOT mean that all 17 agencies did their own tests or made their own determinations or even made a statement on the matter individually. In fact, they did NONE of that. This is no different from President Obama or Trump going to a foreign meeting and saying, "on behalf of the 50 states of America, we believe that Israel should not build in the 'occupied territory.'" He has the authority to speak for the United States, but his comments and beliefs no more represent what all 50 states believe than a man on the moon. Turning 2 into 17 is fake news.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1003880)	3/4/2017 5:42:58 PM
From: locogringo	1 Recommendation Recommended By FJB Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586207

Pretty soon you and mooseboy will be telling us how Maxine Waters has tangible proof that she herself has seen, so Trump better get out of town now. Rep. Maxine Waters claims Trump officials' ties with Russia 'will lead to impeachment'

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1003880)	3/4/2017 6:14:39 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1586207

Democrats would be defending Clinton, Huma, and Bernie in those circumstances. Party over country happens on both sides.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1003880)	8/23/2020 4:44:34 PM
From: Thomas M.	1 Recommendation Recommended By Bill Respond to of 1586207

What would people be saying if 17 intelligence agencies had said that Russia hacked the RNC and Trump Inc to help Clinton I guess we'll never know since ZERO intelligence agencies made that claim. A few biased people (selected specifically for their bias) made the claim. The Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) violated protocols for drafting such assessments. For example, although the protocols require intelligence community assessments to be “community products” and vetted with all intelligence agencies and analysts with equities in a given subject, only three intelligence agencies were asked to draft this assessment: the CIA, National Security Agency and FBI. With the 14 other intelligence agencies left out, the three participating agencies included only two dozen “handpicked” analysts. Other intelligence agencies working on this issue, such as the Defense Intelligence Agency and the Department of Homeland Security, were excluded. In addition, House Intelligence Committee staff revealed the actual drafting of the intelligence community assessment was done by three close associates of former CIA Director Brennan, who has proven to be the most politicized intelligence chief in American history. Contrary to common practice for controversial intelligence community assessments, Brennan’s team allowed no dissenting views or even an annex with reviews by outside experts. These were extraordinary violations of intelligence community rule. foxnews.com Tom

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1003880)	8/24/2020 9:51:27 AM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586207

What would people be saying if 17 intelligence agencies had said that Russia hacked The New York Times response to that claim: "What is missing is hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims" The claim itself included this incredible disclaimer: “Judgments are not intended to imply that we have proof that shows something to be a fact.” Russiagate’s ‘Core Narrative’ Has Always Lacked Actual Evidence The unprecedented allegation that the Kremlin “attacked America” and “colluded” with its president in order to elect him is based on two documents devoid of facts or logic. By Stephen F. Cohen thenation.com Tom