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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (131735)3/8/2017 12:44:51 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217713
 
<<lust for gold>>

Is deemed political ;0)

But you get a free pass.

In the mean time, seems there is quite a bit of confused fighting going on, where folks do not know they are coming or going, and probably forgot what it be all about.

Would seem team USA, Russia, and Turkey all have too much excess capacity to shed, and too much wealth to bother keeping, and cannot think of anything better to do, unlike ... oh ... just for example, say, Brazil

bloomberg.com

U.S., Russia Counter Erdogan in Syria as Fight Scrambles Allies
More stories by Henry Meyer•March 8, 2017, 1:00 PM GMT+8



A convoy of US armored vehicles near the village of Yalanli, in Manbij, on March 5.

Photographer: Delil Souleiman/AFP via Getty ImagesThe U.S. and Russia have found themselves teaming up for the first time in the war in Syria -- against a country both call an ally: Turkey.

In Manbij, a town in northern Syria about 40 kilometers (25 miles) from the Turkish border, U.S. and Russia moved this week to effectively block a drive by Turkey to seize it. A U.S. deployment and a Russian-brokered deal with Syrian forces created buffer zones that headed off any Turkish drive against the Kurdish forces -- seen by Washington as key allies against Islamic State, though Turkey views them as terrorists -- who now hold the town.

As the outside powers fighting in Syria step up the fight to crush Islamic State, the battle is laying bare their often-conflicting loyalties. With all sides pushing into terrorist-held territory, the potential for clashes between the players is rising.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is at the center of this thanks to his military campaign, but he must keep allies like Syria and Iran on side even as tries to cooperate with the U.S. and Turkey. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan comes to Moscow on Thursday with his defense minister for talks with Putin.

“This is a unique circumstance when the U.S. and Russia have found themselves thrown together against Turkey because of the Kurds, who are directly sponsored by Washington and get Russian support too,” said Alexander Shumilin, head of the Middle East Conflict Center at the Institute for U.S. and Canada Studies, a government-run research group in Moscow.

‘Flag Competition’Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said his country was seeking a “trilateral mechanism” to clear the area of “terrorist groups.” In Manbij, “the U.S. is raising a flag, Russia is raising a flag nearby, things have turned into a flag competition,” Yildirim said in an interview with ATV television.

The standoff has emerged as Russia has taken the diplomatic lead in seeking to resolve the war in Syria after its air campaign that started in 2015 succeeded in bolstering President Bashar al-Assad.

Under pressure in Washington over allegations of Russian interference in the U.S. election, U.S. President Donald Trump has backed off his campaign pledge to cooperate on fighting terrorism in Syria with Putin. Still, last month U.S. warplanes helped indirectly in the Russian-backed Syrian offensive to recapture the historic city of Palmyra, carrying out 23 strikes over nine days, as much as during the rest of February. Now, faced with Turkey, the two powers appear to have taken a tactical joint stance.

In a bid to lower the tensions, U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Joseph Dunford, Russian Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov and Turkey’s Chief of the General Staff Hulusi Akar met in the southern Turkish city of Antalya on Tuesday.

‘Dangerous Situation’“It is a measure of the success that forces are having in countering the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria that the conversation is necessary,” the U.S. Defense Department said in a statement. It noted that areas like Manbij have become “a crowded battlespace” and the proximity of the various forces had created “a dangerous situation.”

Turkey sent troops across the border into Syria in August, backing Free Syrian Army rebels in battles against Islamic State. The army has also clashed with Kurdish groups that the government in Ankara regards as terrorist organizations with links to separatists in Turkey, and which took control of Manbij after expelling Islamic State from the town just before the Turkish incursion.

Turkey has sought the support of the U.S., its NATO ally, to lead a ground offensive against Islamic State’s main Syrian stronghold of Raqqa that would advance through areas controlled by Kurdish fighters, a Turkish official said last week. But the U.S. views the Kurds as an essential element of the battle against the radical Sunni group that’s waged a global campaign of terrorist attacks from its self-declared caliphate in Syria and Iraq.

Risk RemainsFull-scale hostilities between the Turks and Kurds would pose a major setback for efforts to capture Raqqa, according to Joshua Landis, head of the Center for Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma. “It’s important to get a buffer between the Turks and Kurds so ISIS can be beaten,” he said.

The U.S. has moved 500 soldiers to the outskirts of Manbij, according to Ilnur Cevik, chief adviser to Erdogan. The U.S.-led coalition “has taken this deliberate action to reassure coalition members and partner forces, deter aggression and keep the focus on defeating ISIS,” spokesman Col. John Dorrian said on Twitter.

The U.S. and Russian moves leave Turkey with “no more room to maneuver,” said Faysal Itani, an analyst with the Atlantic Council in Washington. That will enable a Kurdish-led operation to capture Raqqa and the Syrian government to deploy its forces too in the area, he said.

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (131735)3/8/2017 1:27:15 PM
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  Respond to of 217713
 
I don't think explaining the cliche really political if one understands the full context where it is derived from and the overall message.

It is actually a Christian teaching from the bible where it says the love of money can create the will to deceive, cheat, hoard and employ criminal activity to extort and deprive others. It is found in Timothy. But a person has to read much more than just 6:10 to gather the full meaning.

It speaks to the fact, that if the financial well being of the masses are being unjustly exploited to the point that many are left with nothing. The society including the financial system will inevitably suffer collapse.
Having a great pile of cash is useless. If all others are in such poor degraded condition they have nothing with which can produce products to buy. The system becomes stagnant and collapses from within.

Understanding the passage in proper form describes what sets the stage for eventual financial collapse. You might say a prerequisite for (Teotwawki.) The heading on this Thread.