so nothing has changed over the years....
take a trip down memory lane, it's refreshing
trategies & Market TrendsThe coming US dollar crisis -- Ignore is Off
| To: DebtBomb who wrote (21920) | 8/11/2009 9:01:26 AM | | From: zamboz | of 59833 | | | 5 wave pattern chart on USD posted by Mish about a week ago.
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How many times has Prechter been wrong? Then again, we should all be wary of this dollar bounce whether Prechter chimes in or not. USD is still below the downtrend from March highs. FOMC could pop it one way or another. |
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| To: zamboz who wrote (21921) | 8/11/2009 9:11:47 AM | | From: DebtBomb | of 59833 | | | | I found it, thanks. I don't know. China bubble pops? Swine flu? Afghanistan? Commercial real estate bust? Russia muscle flexing? Do they make the dollar skyrocket? In a flight to safety? Maybe. It's STILL the world reserve currency. |
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| To: RockyBalboa who wrote (21898) | 8/11/2009 9:14:30 AM | | From: RockyBalboa | of 59833 | | | With the BOJ out of the way, the yen reclaims some terrain as the overextended GBP and EURYEN trades give up.
I wouldn´t read too much in it, as other say, but as stocks fail to gain terrain the Pound (and EUR sags) old correlations are in place again. Dollar up, Yen up.
the current EUR level could hold, as new support, or not. If not, and if pressure in Yen carry trades does not go away then the low 1.40 (from few weeks ago) will be revisit and the chart could turn.
EUR must be under pressure as it gave up earlier gains against the pound; when the pound sagged the EUR was pretty glued to nearly 1.42 but that petered off suddenly. |
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| To: zamboz who wrote (21921) | 8/11/2009 9:22:51 AM | | From: DebtBomb | of 59833 | | | | In hyper-inflation....we wouldn't be buying any of China's crap....and they know it....meet the new boss....I just don't see the dollar collapse coming anytime soon....give it a few years. ;-) |
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| To: zamboz who wrote (21921) | 8/11/2009 9:29:47 AM | | From: DebtBomb | of 59833 | | | | Well, the dollar rocketed up into 1932....so....someone would have to believe that everything is fixed and it's all over, for the dollar to go down for the count now. Personally, I don't....and I think we have a long way to go to unwind the biggest debt bubble ever in the history of mankind. If bernanke tries to crash the buck and inflate, China will kick his azz....if China gets pissed enough....they'll just cut us off....then we'll really be screwed....and half of the gov't will be layed off....and everything will bust even worse, IMHO. China funds us....they are the boss, IMO. |
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| To: zamboz who wrote (21928) | 8/11/2009 9:48:40 AM | | From: DebtBomb | of 59833 | | | | China has a vested interest in keeping our sorry azzes afloat....so we keep buying their crap. They won't allow hyper-inflation. They want deflation....so we keep buying at Walmart. bernanke is trapped! IMHO. |
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| To: DebtBomb who wrote (21930) | 8/11/2009 10:23:21 AM | | From: zamboz | 1 Recommendation of 59833 | | | | I hear they are buying some hard assets around the world with some of their dollars. Also, at some point in time, Taiwan will be theirs without firing a shot because they will have won the economic war. Governments can do some things right. |
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| To: zamboz who wrote (21931) | 8/11/2009 10:36:40 AM | | From: DebtBomb | 1 Recommendation of 59833 | | | If you watch I.O.U.S.A., you can see how it all plays out....China can do anything it wants now....they have us by the nutz. It is a shame that our leaders let it get to this point. I think the lunatics are running the asylum and I am still expecting a lunatic type outcome.
Taiwan is theirs....and we can only complain and whine.
We'll look back someday and see, we were too busy bailing out the losing gamblers and strike-out batters on wall street with tax payer money, to do the right thing. |
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| To: DebtBomb who wrote (21934) | 8/11/2009 10:50:08 AM | | From: ayn rand | 3 Recommendations of 59833 | | | we were not simply bailing out the losing gamblers. our leaders had to take care of their friends who successfully executed an incredibly ambitious game plan and they are in the advanced stages of their plan at present. remember, there is honor among thieves. lets give credit where credit is due. the members of the billion dollar boys club continue their winning ways.
furthermore, if an incredibly gifted car salesman can sell junk cars to the gullible public, the public gets a raw deal, but the salesman is financially successful despite the morality issues. cf: matilda (documentary of a used car salesman) |
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| To: DebtBomb who wrote (21934) | 8/11/2009 10:52:59 AM | | From: zamboz | of 59833 | | | just saw this on china's dollar peg keeping oil prices high. a couple of charts on the link.
How China's Dollar Peg Keeps Oil Prices High
seekingalpha.com
by: Keith Schaefer August 11, 2009 | about: CYB / USO
Millions of consumers and investors in North America are wondering how the global oil price and the price of gasoline at the pumps can be going up in the face of rising global oil inventories and no significant increase in demand for anything in the US.
According to Philip Treick, Managing Partner of Thermopolis Partners, a large part of the reason oil and copper have been strong is because the Chinese have re-pegged their currency, the Yuan, to the dollar, since July 2008.
Without a peg, the Yuan would naturally rise against the US dollar, attracting capital as one of the few growing economies in the world (as the Yuan did when it floated up between 2005 - July 2008). But an increasing Yuan was causing China to lose manufacturing jobs to other countries and cause social unrest.
Simplistically, in order to maintain that peg - which means forcing the Yuan down - the Chinese must print Yuan out of thin air (just like the Americans) to buy US dollars. This increases their money supply. To offset that, they then need to sell Yuan via debt - create an obligation that is an offset to that new increase in money supply. But a couple of their debt auctions have failed recently, greatly increasing the monetary base in China.
This has had the effect of flooding the Chinese banking system with capital, which has gone into new lending by banks, the stock market…and hard assets like oil, driving up growth and prices in an otherwise contracting global economy.
Maintaining the peg is straining the Chinese economy - if and when something breaks, what will that mean for the oil price? It should be good for investors in oil if the thing that breaks is the peg.
QUICK HISTORY
China pegged its currency to the US dollar up until 2005. Bowing to international but mostly US pressure, the Chinese began a slow but steady upward revaluing of the Yuan from 2005 to July 17, 2008.
As this was a controlled rise, with very low volatility, investors and speculators poured billions of dollars into the Yuan to gain from its appreciation. Borrow from a declining US dollar, invest in a rising Yuan, and make 10-15% of low risk money. That’s called a “carry-trade”.
Understand that the international community wanted the Yuan to rise to make Chinese goods more expensive, and hopefully other nations could get back some of the tens of millions of manufacturing jobs that had been lost to China.
But as the Yuan rose, China started losing jobs to other countries, mostly in Southeast Asia. By July 2008, so many factories had been closed and jobs lost that the Chinese government made an un-announced policy decision to re-peg the Yuan to the dollar.
There would be no more appreciation of the Yuan against the US dollar. THE CARRY TRADE WAS OVER. Speculators short the dollar were forced to cover as the US dollar started to soar as this trade was unwound.
(Now, the end of the carry trade was well reported, but most media credit it to the subprime crisis in the US. But the mortgage crisis started in 2006 - the credit contraction started then. The crash of October 2008 was a full two years later - only weeks after the Yuan was pegged again.)
WHERE WE ARE NOW
Fast forward to today. We see a rising oil price - usually a sign the economy is greatly improving - at a time when the world’s largest economy, the US, is still mired in deep recession.
How can that be? Because the Chinese are creating billions of new Yuan to keep the Yuan low, keep it pegged to the US dollar, and some of that money must be buying oil, says Treick.
As long as the Chinese hold the Yuan-dollar peg, billions in new Yuan will continue to be created, with much of that money flow going into hard assets like oil to hedge against inflation. This means that small, brief pullbacks in the global oil price are going to be just that - small and brief.
That, Mr. and Mrs. Smith in America, is why the global oil price and your price at the pumps are going to stay high in the face of high oil inventories. Let’s not even start on the huge Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) China is creating.
I humbly suggest this means investors who trade oil and oil stocks strictly on the supply-demand fundamentals of the oil market - which are bearish now - will miss out on a lot of profits if they are not watching China.
So how does this situation play out moving forward? Because a higher oil price is also problematic for the Chinese. They don’t want higher oil prices to kill their economic recovery. Economic unrest has already meant riots in the street in several Chinese cities.
China has run a trade surplus with most of the world for many years, so they have a big enough foreign exchange reserve to subsidize the price of oil, keeping demand high in that country - which analysts say would be very bullish for the global oil price.
Their other option is break the peg, which would cause the Yuan to rise quickly, making oil cheaper in Yuan. This would increase the oil price in dollars - increasing profits and stock valuations for investors.
And keep the price at the gas pump high. Sorry Mr. & Mrs. Smith. |
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| To: DebtBomb who wrote (21920) | 8/11/2009 12:38:23 PM | | From: RockyBalboa | of 59833 | | | More on it, by Prechter:
finance.yahoo.com
In July, Ben Bernanke told a town hall meeting, "I was not going to be the Federal Reserve chairman who presided over the second Great Depression." According to New York Times columnist Paul Krugman in that regard he's succeeded. Bernanke's rescue of the financial sector in tandem with the Obama Administration's stimulus plan prevented a "full replay" of the Great Depression, the Nobel Prize-winning economist writes.
But like President Bush declaring "Mission Accomplished" in 2003, Elliott Wave International founder, Bob Prechter thinks Krugman and Bernanke are premature in declaring victory over the credit crunch. Prechter, who famously predicted the 1987 stock market crash, tells Tech Ticker "the march towards depression, which is being fueled by deflationary trend, is pretty well intact." |
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