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To: TideGlider who wrote (1010957)	4/11/2017 11:53:52 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 1574683

"CO2 is not a Greenhouse Gas that Raises Global temperature. Period! by Dr. Tim Ball " Tim Ball is a liar. Period. "Both avoid the real issue that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas, as demonstrated in the book Slaying the Sky Dragon." The real issue is addressed in science journals, not comic books. "My concern as a climatologist " He's a retired professor of geography. He prolly should have taken a few physics classes. the Tim Ball Award for Resume Stretching. Tim, you may remember, was the former First Ever Climatologist in Canada who got called and stomped on by Dan Johnson, for, well, resume stretching.

To: TideGlider who wrote (1010957)	4/11/2017 12:31:45 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 1574683

"Most troubling initially was the effective omission of water vapor as a greenhouse gas (Figure 1)." Another Tim Ball lie. 1860s: Tyndall and heat-trapping gases 1860s: Tyndall and heat-trapping gasesSome 40 years later, the thread was picked up again. To Victorian natural historian and pioneer in Alpine climbing, John Tyndall (1820-1893), the evidence, controversial at the time but now mainstream, clearly indicated that at one time much of northern Europe had been covered by ice-sheets. However, what was far from clear was how the climate could change in such a drastic manner. Among the possibilities Tyndall considered was variations in the composition of the atmosphere, and via a series of experiments he made the discovery that water-vapour was an important heat-trapping agent. He also found that carbon dioxide was very good at trapping heat, despite being a trace gas occurring in the hundreds of parts per million (ppm) range. Hundreds of parts per million may not sound like a lot, but some compounds have important properties at such concentrations: for example, 500ppm of hydrogen sulphide in air may lead to asphyxia, as any health and safety fact-sheet on the gas will tell you. skepticalscience.com Based on information from his colleague Arvid Högbom, Arrhenius was the first person to predict that emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels and other combustion processes were large enough to cause global warming. In his calculation Arrhenius included the feedback from changes in water vapor as well as latitudinal effects, en.wikipedia.org