To: i-node who wrote (1011531 ) 4/15/2017 7:05:44 PM From: koan Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574186 I'm glad to see you wavering on the death penalty. That means you're thinking. The reason every Western democracy, except this one, has outlawed the death penalty is because it is a primitive idea left over from yesteryear; and we still know so little about how the human mind works. So yes it is immoral. For example, what about a person that kills someone, but is of limited intelligence and cannot understand what they've done? The most important thing about that situation is that the person was not capable of making a rational decision, therefore society, while they need to remove that person, does not need to, and should not, torture them. They were innocent in the sense of their inability to do anything about it. So a Humane Society simply separates them out and gives them life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. The same can be said of a killer who was abused as a child. Because we weep for the child, we do not need to torture the adult and resultant person. We just need to remove them from society. Revenge to either of the above people is mean, stupid and barbaric.Why liberals do not support it and conservatives do, in the main. Says something about both tribes I should think. One fights for humanity and the other throws gasoline on inhumanity. So a humane and sophisticated society simply separates that person from society so they can't harm anyone. The problem with this right wing hunger for revenge, is that it is stupid and uncivilized and destructive to a society. What does it teach our children? Our civilization came from our thoughtfulness of how humans should be governed. Not by Kings, or dictators or tribal chiefs, but by people elected by the people according to the rule of law as put forth by the people. So as to avoid torture.