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To: POKERSAM who wrote (1011899)	4/18/2017 12:35:25 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573927

What you're saying is simply not true. People do not go to the emergency room for a health check ups or when they are just sick. They generally go to the emergency room when they are really sick and scared of dying. You say you speak from experience? I was our State Director of Emergency Medical Services and I wrote our first state plan for a comprehensive EMS system under PL 93-154 over 40 years ago, and I put our state's EMS system together from scratch. So I am speaking from experience myself. <<Message #1011919 from POKERSAM at 4/18/2017 12:23:45 PM Listen POS, People without insurance go to the emergency at the hospital for everything from a cold to a broken bone or un diagnosed symptoms. They know they will receive treatment and they know they will not have to pay for it. First they get triage. Then they are ask about payment, insurance etc. They then talk to a financial counselor who helps them sign up for help that is available. If they have no income or very low income they are signed up for medicaid. Hospitals all have various charity programs to pay for those who cannot. These charities go by different names specific to the hospital. In the end if the bill is noncollectable it is written off by the hospital. As I said, to the tune of millions a month. The poor soon learn to use all that is available to them. If they have problems there are a multitude of assistance organizations and help centers to guide them to take advantage of all that is available to them. If they do not take advantage of all that is available that is not the systems fault. The horrible picture that you envision does not exist. It is the false picture presented by Demonrat propaganda. Hospitals would love for the government to mandate that everyone have health insurance and the Government tax everyone to pay the premiums. The hospitals would never have to write off another penny. You are formulating your assumptions based on your twisted logic guided by Demonrat propaganda. I am speaking from experience with reality.

To: POKERSAM who wrote (1011899)	4/18/2017 1:29:30 PM
From: PKRBKR	1 Recommendation Recommended By POKERSAM Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573927

Hospitals would love for the government to mandate that everyone have health insurance and the Government tax everyone to pay the premiums. The hospitals would never have to write off another penny. If single payer happens hospitals will essentially become wards of the state. Same with medical device and pharma companies as the government will decided what to pay and thus what they will allow to be developed. A total lose-lose-lose situation.

To: POKERSAM who wrote (1011899)	4/18/2017 2:30:55 PM
From: Heywood40	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573927

Who ultimately pays for the unpaid ER services the hospital writes off?

To: POKERSAM who wrote (1011899)	4/18/2017 3:46:14 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573927

In the end if the bill is noncollectable it is written off by the hospital. As I said, to the tune of millions a month. Below is an actual copy of my insurance statement for the month of February......note that the providers billed the insurers about $9700 but had agreed on a payment of about $2000, my share being $215. So is that unpaid $7700 written off? If not why do they play the game with the numbers....every bill I every receive from a medical provider or a dentist is written like this..... In this case the write off is bigger than the revenue to the providers....ergo no taxes????? Donald Trump redux???? Am I wrong?