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To: TimF who wrote (16447)4/27/2017 6:46:16 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 365296
 
Having the provisioning of water be overwhelmingly by the government on an ongoing basis is socialist provision of water

Uh Tim, in most cases the water is charged for. Which is actually different than the way it was handled in ancient times.

Like Lane was arguing, providing services isn't socialism. Arguing that it is perverts the whole framework.

just as having health care provided overwhelmingly, or esp. totally, by the government is socialized medicine (having the government pay for it, which is much more common, isn't best described as socialized medicine, perhaps "socialized health insurance", but then you get in to another debate about the meaning of insurance

It depends on the implementation. The way that Canada, New Zealand and Britain provider healthcare is pretty clearly socialized medicine. Not so much in other countries, some of which use insurance companies but is varying degrees of regulation. The US is a mixed model, from the fully socialized VA, through what is essentially socialized insurance of Medicare, to the free for all which is the rest of the market. As far as results, the more socialized things are the better people like it. The results seem to follow a similar scale.