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To: Time Traveler who wrote (27699)	1/6/1998 11:45:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572719

John - Re: "Is AMD really getting that desperate?" It would appear thet AMD is not progressing well in their FAB 25. Sanders has talked about bringing up the 0.25 micron process in FAB 25 (Austin) since April 2 - and apparently they haven't yet succeeded - otherwise why would they ship products from their development fab? FAB 25 is running far below full capacity so it isn't capacity constrained. But - shipping from their development Fab is better than nothing. Paul

To: Time Traveler who wrote (27699)	1/7/1998 12:07:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572719

<AMD is shipping engineering samples as production parts to its customers. Is AMD really getting that desperate?> Yess! A bunch of idiots at two world largest PC makers were indeed desperate to impress important investors like Paul, Yousef-So-So, and you, and solely for this reason they put themselfes in jeopardy to go out of favour with their major supplier Intel! You outsmart yourself, John. BTW, I do not see from you guys another wave of mockery - in one of the recent articles they mention IBM K6 processor, not AMD! Why it would be so? What is your take, guys? Come on, don't be shy! Tell us more about secondary and tetriary ways of power dissipation from Slot1; do not forget radiative transfers!

To: Time Traveler who wrote (27699)	1/7/1998 12:12:00 AM
From: greg nus	Respond to of 1572719

Wang, SDC is a research engineering and production facility. AMD uses it to get the bugs out before shipping, something Intel does not deem necessary. And that is why no chips are returned. As a share holder You might want to write Intel and recommend they copy the idea! With the money Intel could have saved Intel could have built their our such facility.