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To: Adrian Wu who wrote (3566)1/7/1998 2:53:00 AM
From: Robert Walter  Respond to of 6843
 
Adrian,

IMHO the low end is not where the real profits will come from and AMD must one day compete with Intel on the high ASP Cpu's for the earnings to really soar. It is a possibility that Intel will scrap the cacheless PII altogether because they may drop the price on the lower speed PII's so fast that it will be a competitive in the sub $1000 market.

With that in mind the next hurdle for AMD to be able to compete with the PII is the establishment of a K6 running on a 100 mhz AGP bus motherboard. This in itself will give socket 7 the additional life span neccessary to bridge the gap until K7 arrives with it's new bus design. AMD should be able to work with the chipset manufacturers to achieve this by the end of the 1st quarter. Acer is already shipping samples of its Ali V chipset and VIA is working on the mobile version
of its VP3 (VP4) chipset which is reported to have a 100 mhz bus.

Yet to be heard in this is what bus speeds the SIS and ETEQ
AGP chipsets are capble of acheiving. ETEQ currently is shipping
its chipset but I have yet find out what bus speed it can
achieve. Here is a URL with a manufacturer using the chipset
soyo.com.tw

One of the real concerns regarding the 100 mhz bus however is
the speed of the current memory modules and how the peripheral
device of today will interact with them. Certainlly Intel plans
for a 100 mhz bus require faster memory and componets but they
can afford a slower transition to this speed bus than AMD due to
the PII's DIB bus to the L2 cache.

While AMD's K6+ is planning to incorporate the L2 cache on the chip it certainlly will prove to be a manufacturing challenge because of its size and potential yield factors. Hopefully they have taken the lessons from Intel's Pentium Pro on how not to bond SDram to the CPU core.

Robert



To: Adrian Wu who wrote (3566)1/7/1998 11:51:00 AM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6843
 
Adrian,
<The new K6-3D running at 300 MHz is 30% faster than a PII-300.>

Faster at doing what? It doesn't say specifically. So it may also be 10% slower doing something else.

EP