To: Brumar89 who wrote (77087 ) 5/23/2017 1:20:25 PM From: Brumar89 Respond to of 86355 Clean water and operable sewage systems REQUIRE reliable power in every step of their systems! One of the first things lost when power goes out over a wide area is clean water if the supplied pressure from reserve hydraulic tanks is lost is “clean water” -preventing the contamination from reverse seepage back into the delivery water pipes requires consistent reliable power. The fresh water filters, Cl or ozone gas delivery and metering systems, and the supply pumps all need reliable power or the system fails from the source. You CANNOT build a water system without continuous power first. And clean water infrastructure (the ditches, pump systems, pipes, meters, and all the digging required to fabricate those systems) requires reliable power to create those systems! “Clean water” does NOT come from wells (directly) nor from irrigation ditches, nor from rivers and lakes. It starts there as dirty water – and becomes immediately a dirty and contaminated water system a few feet later. (See Mexico. Only a few feet from the US water system.) Sewage is worse: It MUST be pumped, filtered, restrained (pressurized into pipes and sewers) into specific gravity and purpose-built wiers and channels that flow into channeled and covered larger pipe systems into the final processing plant. Lose power and all that overflows and jams, clogs, and fails within minutes and hours. The hand and machine work must be done correctly and competently – without corruption and theft at EVERY level from the worker, the supplier, the inspector, the contractor, the governor, the police, the watchman, and the customs/taxman. And THAT doesn’t happen either! All this “invisible” concrete, steel, copper, and equipment must be fabricated and installed with power – and with the third-level infrastructure and morality (“thou shalt not steal!” or its reverse civil threat “if thou steal I shall shoot you”) that prevents loss of the newly-installed and run lines. See India: Less than 1/2 the power generated is paid for. The basic morals and “people” environment found in today’s second world and third world (and now the increasingly- 6th century fourth world!) countries are fundamental to resolving their problems. Lack of reliable power is a first level requirement that must be solved if they are to get above that “coveted” dirt-poor subusistance farmer culture who cannot feed even himself. Yes, renewables can power lights for a few hours in remote villages. But it can do little more than that. Windmill-style pumps can bring dirty water near the surface up, but then it must be hand-carried on the backs of women to the dirt-floor houses infected by vermin and rodents. And those buckets and urns are never washed – they cannot be! ........... RACookPE1978 May 22, 2017 at 4:58 am