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To: i-node who wrote (20467)6/3/2017 11:54:15 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 357183
 
<<<<All I've ever asked for is convincing science and I just haven't seen it as yet.>>>>

Well the real world is testing the theories now in the only real way that can determine the outcome on such a scale. Pump the atmosphere full of CO2 - and watch the results. Only thing is the result may be catastrophic for mankind. If you are right no biggy, BUT if you are wrong and the 200 participating countries are right, we are fucked. Why play Russian Roulette with our future welfare?

If we follow the way of the 200 countries there are huge economic benefits (and health benefits for our children) - so why not? That is why I don't get the decision.



To: i-node who wrote (20467)6/4/2017 9:49:37 AM
From: Wharf Rat1 Recommendation

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"Only after the science was discarded in favor of political efforts "
That happened in '88, and you've chosen the political side of the argument.

In 1991, a US corporate coalition including the National Coal Association, the Western Fuels Association and Edison Electrical Institute created a public relations organization called the " Information Council on the Environment" (ICE). ICE launched a $500,000 advertising campaign to, in ICE's own words, "reposition global warming as theory (not fact)." Critics of industry groups have charged that the claims about a global warming controversy are part of a deliberate effort to reduce the impact any international treaty, such as the Kyoto Protocol, might have on their business interests. [43]

en.wikipedia.org

“God Bless Trump”: 25 Years Ago This Man Kick Started the First Fossil Fuel–Funded Campaigns to Attack Climate Science
In July 1988, on page 11 of Sports Illustrated magazine, one story caught the eye of Fred Palmer.

Under the headline “ The Foul, Hot Summer,” the article lamented that year’s scorching heat and drought.

“We have only ourselves to blame for this midsummer's nightmare. Burning fossil fuels has created many of these environmental ills,” the story read.

Palmer was worried. As the boss of Western Fuels Association (WFA), a co-op of coal power generators and haulers, this self-confessed “prairie populist” could see the writing on the wall for his industry.
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"All I've ever asked for is convincing science and I just haven't seen it as yet. "
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