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To: J. Kerner who wrote (2627)	1/7/1998 3:04:00 PM
From: Arrow Hd.	Respond to of 10309

I think it is also important to keep in mind that IBM needs nothing from Oracle or Sun to make the NC a success. Certainly combined they become far more formidable but there have already been many successes in large enterprises with selling and installing NCs strictly due to IBM's initiatives.

To: J. Kerner who wrote (2627)	1/9/1998 1:05:00 AM
From: Richard Karpel	Respond to of 10309

OFF TOPIC J. Kerner, It's not Ellison's eccentric interests that bother me; it's his need to gaudily display them to rest of us. There's no question that Ellison has been fabulously successful. However, for some people, too much success can be a corrupting influence. I don't think Gates or Grove have that problem; I think Ellison does. Having said that, I'll reiterate that I know next to nothing about Oracle. I like your argument about the influence the NC has had on the sub-$1000 computer. I think McNealy and Sun deserve some credit as well.