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To: Brumar89 who wrote (78010)	7/5/2017 2:40:16 PM
From: Eric	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

You keep insisting Henry's Law doesn't mean what it says. I don't believe you. The graph you provide only shows what the saturation point is for CO2 in seawater at specific temps at sea level. Puget Sound is not saturated at sea level. Far from it. I believe the graph below shows how much CO2 the surface of Puget Sound holds, whatever the temperature is: Incorrect. It does not show what the surface of Puget Sound holds!

To: Brumar89 who wrote (78010)	7/5/2017 3:02:02 PM
From: russet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

I think what the condescending global warming alarmist is arguing (T Watson says it better: anonymous projectile excrement vomiter eRICO it's dumber than a bag of koans.) is that rising CO2 levels would cause more CO2 to enter the water if the temperature of the water doesn't change much. 1. The concentration of CO2 in the water will depend on two things in a simple chemistry world. Temperature and concentration of CO2 in the air and water in a given place. 2. Right now, in any place on earth, the concentration of CO2 in the water and in the air around it is in a equilibrium state of full saturation in the water determined by the temperature of the water and the concentration of CO2 in the air surrounding it. If the CO2 concentration in the air rises and everything else stays the same, more CO2 will dissolve in the water at that specific place. But if the temperature of the water at that place is also rising or falling, you have a more complex situation as a rising temperature will force CO2 to come out of the water but the increasing concentration of CO2 in the air is countering that effect by pushing more CO2 into the water. A new equilibrium saturation level will occur that could result in a higher, or lower concentration of CO2 in the water than before. Temperature of water in a given place can change quickly over time because of changing currents and weather conditions. CO2 levels can also change quickly depending on what is going on in the area you are talking about. As you say, if the temperature of everything is increasing, you would expect CO2 to come out of the water, but if the concentration of CO2 in the air is increasing as well, a new equilibrium saturation will be established with both changes contributing. To determine the overall sum of these effects on CO2 concentration over all over the world, is a similar problem to measuring the overall world temperature. It is subject to big errors and political pressures. I have seen no study that has measured CO2 concentrations in the waters all over the world over time to determine if average CO2 levels are falling or rising in the entire world's water. I'm sure such a study would cost more than the temperature monitoring that is being done presently. There may be studies of this in a specific place, but what is happening in one isolated place is not true for the entire world.