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To: Eric who wrote (78284)	7/13/2017 3:48:54 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Eric, when you quote the weight of the battery, you should include the coolant and container and everything that is part of the battery. The weight of the cells is not of much interest. You are being disingenuous to quote just the weight of some component of the battery. Lead acid batteries are made up of various components too. But when you ask how much a battery weighs, you don't want to know what the weight of the lead part is. You want the all up weight including the electrolyte, the container, the acid, the connectors and labels. I have sat in a Tesla and looked all over it. I have not seen an actual motor, battery etc. But there are modern photographic and other visual representations of most things these days, so to get a good enough idea about things, one can see photos. Even if you have never been to Mars, there are robots that have sent pretty good pictures. Hubble has sent some impressive photos of distant galaxies and though nobody has been there, we thereby get a good idea of the visual effect of them. You constantly use that argument as a way of denying something. You probably have not been down the Gulf Stream to the bottom of the ocean to see how the CO2 flows. You don't actually have to do that to get a good idea of what's happening. Humans learn about huge numbers of things with nobody actually being there. And yet again here you misunderstand: <<Your ICE of equivalent power is heavier. >> Yes, a regular car of the same power is perhaps heavier than a Ten Ton Tesla. So what? My point has got nothing to do with steam engines, internal combustion engines, or other kinds of engines. You seem to think I'm defending internal combustion cars against electric cars. Where did you get that idea? The point is that an extra half ton of battery to cart around is a BIG cost penalty. If you don't want to understand, you won't. So that's up to you. Mqurice