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To: FJB who wrote (1025058)7/19/2017 3:58:07 AM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573927
 
...... you just know the outcome as soon as McConnell said there will be a vote..........McConnell has at least 3 no votes lined up so Obamacare survives and all the other RINOs get to vote to kill it to placate (fool) their constituencies..........the ROMAN Senate at its very best............TRUMP must DUMP McConnell or he will be ruined.......makes you wonder who the hell is advising him.

Will Trump Get Played By McConnell? Or is Trump Playing Along?
By Matthew Monforton | July 18, 2017, 07:55pm | @MGMonforton

Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and most other Senate Republicans played conservatives for fools in 2015. As explained in detail by Patterico at RedState earlier today, a Senate vote in 2015 to repeal Obamacare was a farce – everyone knew Barack Obama would veto it and thus Republican senators got a free chance to mollify home state conservatives.

Fastforward to the present. As Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) candidly and refreshingly acknowledged last week, McConnell was never going to allow any true “repeal and replace” of Obamacare to pass the Senate this time around. And even the fraudulent “repeal and replace” bill the leadership was peddling finally died last night.

McConnell immediately declared that he will soon hold his caucus’ feet to the fire and demand a vote on a straightforward repeal of Obamacare much like the 2015 vote. President Donald Trump joined in:

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It took less than 24 hours for McConnell’s latest sham to be exposed. As of this writing, three “Republican” senators, Susan Collins, (R-Maine), Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), have said they will not vote to repeal Obamacare. They’ve guaranteed that, at most, only 49 GOP senators will do so.

All other GOP senators can now vote to repeal Obamacare with the same confidence they had in 2015 that their votes will (again) be meaningless gestures aimed at the rubes back home.

None of these three “Republican” senators are up for re-election in 2018 and will therefore have plenty of time to mollify conservatives in their states. Moreover, all of them won their last elections by overwhelming majorities: Murkowski by 15% last year, Capito by 27% in 2014, and Collins by 36% in 2014.

In other words, if you were a GOP Senate majority leader seeking cover for your caucus, but needing at least three of your 52 members to defect, these are exactly the three you would count on. McConnell obviously knew their views when he issued his press release last night and that this latest Obamacare repeal scheme was DOA.

But Trump is demanding a repeal as well. So McConnell’s latest shell game is no longer really about McConnell. It’s about Trump.

Is Trump getting played by McConnell and other Senate GOP leaders? Or is he also in on the act?

One way we’ll know is by observing how Trump reacts to senators who are giving him the finger. Trump beat Hillary in Alaska and West Virginia by 15% and 42%, respectively. Is he going to use this leverage to, for example, foment primary challenges against Murkowski and Capito as he’s now doing in Arizona? If they receive no payback for permanently entrenching Obamacare, we’ll know that it wasn’t Trump being played for a fool, but rather Trump and “Republican” senators playing the rest us for one.



To: FJB who wrote (1025058)7/19/2017 8:49:37 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573927
 
In 1988, climate change “scientist” James Hansen predicted that within 20 to 30 years New York City’s West Side Highway would “be under water.”


West side highway, Oct 2012.

Here's what Hansen actually said. A careful reader might note that Hansen was asked about a time when CO2 is at 560. Right now, we are about 410....


Examining Hansen's prediction about the West Side Highway
Posted on 10 March 2011 by ClimateHawk

One climate myth found on the internet, propagated by Anthony Watts, is that James Hansen erroneously predicted the West Side Highway would be underwater by 2008. James Hansen made his statement in response to a question by Bob Reiss, a journalist and author, in 1988. A close examination of the interview reveals Hansen did not, in fact, predict that the West Side Highway would be underwater in 20 years. Bob Reiss reports the conversation as follows:

"When I interviewe­­d James Hansen I asked him to speculate on what the view outside his office window could look like in 40 years with doubled CO2. I'd been trying to think of a way to discuss the greenhouse effect in a way that would make sense to average readers. I wasn't asking for hard scientific studies. It wasn't an academic interview. It was a discussion with a kind and thoughtful man who answered the question. You can find the descriptio­­n in two of my books, most recently The Coming Storm."
James Hansen reports the conversation as follows:

"Reiss asked me to speculate on changes that might happen in New York City in 40 years assuming CO2 doubled in amount."
The book The Coming Storm and the salon.com article are different. In The Coming Storm the question includes the conditions of doubled CO2 and 40 years, while the salon.com article which is quoted by skeptics does not mention doubled CO2, and involves only 20 years.

To understand the discrepancy between these two published accounts, it helps to look at the timeline of events. The original conversation was in 1988. Ten years later, referring to his notes, Bob Reiss recounted the conversation in his book The Coming Storm. James Hansen confirmed the conversation and said he would not change a thing he said. After the book was published, Bob Reiss was talking to a journalist at salon.com about it. As he puts it,

"although the book text is correct, in remembering our original conversation, during a casual phone interview with a Salon magazine reporter in 2001 I was off in years.”
We can check back in 2028, the 40 year mark, and also when and if we reach 560 ppm CO2 (a doubling from pre-industrial levels). In the meantime, we can stop using this conversation from 1988 as a reason to be skeptical about the human origins of global warming.

References:The Coming Storm by Bob Reiss, copyright 2001

Book review in Salon. Com: dir.salon.com

As reported by Anthony Watts:

Communication from James Hansen, January 26, 2011

Email from Bob Reiss, February 15, 2011

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