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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (26604)7/26/2017 1:29:14 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 356133
 
What major where you taking that you signed up for DE? I thought you worked in healthcare?



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (26604)7/26/2017 3:03:03 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 356133
 
Dyson offers the most clear-headed view of where the science is. Even though he is not a "climate science", he understands the process better than today's scientists. It is a voice only experience can provide.

I've often mentioned Feynman because he understood the application of the Scientific Method better than anyone. Dyson, as a friend and contemporary of Feynman, conveys a sense of Feynman's commitment. And Dyson, himself, is no dummy -- having published about as much science as any living person other than perhaps Ben Carson. And a lot of it was before the current "peer review" nonsense, which has trashed science with a poor excuse for being lazy (i.e., the comments were addressed by the people I work with).

> >What's important are measurements of CO2 and temperature over time. Everything else is just commentary.
Unfortunately, this certainly is important and we do not have either over a meaningful period of time. But the statistical analysis is controlling.

You talk often about the correlation between temperature and CO2, but we only have a short period of verifiably accurate measurements of either, and certainly, 1/10th of degrees C cannot be presumed accurate even 100 years ago (and obviously lacked statistically significant coverage and consistency).

So, we don't know, for example, whether the correlation between temperature and ppm means anything. Because we don't know what these metrics were 500 years ago. Or 300. Or 800. These are the kinds of time frames you have to have to reach statistical significance.

The influence of chance is underestimated by these scientists, unfortunately.