Nancy, I have a moment here to blabble, and would like to. I was so interested you spoke of the winds being stopped. My obsession with Rev. 6 and 7 was sparked by that comment, of course. You felt lthe winds were stopping now. They are not only stopping, their irregular patterns are chaotic, and the worst thing of all is that it has effected the oceans flow chart. It was perfectly designed as a global air vent system, and now it is askew. The problem with that is EVERYTHING. Absolutely everything, and it is melting the poles, and the krill only live in the water in the polar caps. IF you study the sea you will find the krill are the basic life source of the sea. Also the very shallow water along the continent shelves. That is the only food. The sea will starve. I am afraid they will all starve before we can poison them all. I pray a lot to be able to live through much more of the death of the creation..
Now, as for the winds. I was paralyzed with some forboding sense of horror in Arizona in 1992 through spring of l993. Probably the foreboding sense of horror was the if I didn't clean up my life I was going to die somehow. But whatever, it was a very serious feeling, and I was telling everyone, and basically even the worst of the worst of the heathens totally agreed, from the best to the worst, all agreed something strange was in the wind. Then the huge floods in the mid-west started. The worst in recorded history, no?
On Night Line (ll:00 p.m) in the middle of that flood, while the rains were still pouring down, Ted Kopple took the Night Line show right into the head of the U.S. weather station, and it looked like NASA. It was the equivalent of NASA. He was standing over some guys at the monitors and he demanded very rudely that "we want to know what is going on. You have all of this equipment, billions of dollars worth, and what is going on, and when will we see an end to it."
As I watched the weather expert, the top in the world almost, and that is why Kopple had taken the show there, said, and he waved his arm in the air in a circle, he said, "Well, the air has all stopped. It's just standing still, it's supposed to be constantly moving around and its standing still."
And they continued to discuss the amazement of it, as in horrible and amazing, and not known to atmospheric science, almost. It was very, very errie
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That was, what, April 1993? That's five years ago, truly almost a lifetime it seems, but what in prophecy time. Now that was a major sign to everyone on the earth, potentially, with cable and satallite, that the winds had stopped moving at least long enough to freak out the U.S. Weather Department scientists.
That all went down just a very short while after I had found Rev. 7, and had been pouring over it rather obsessively, bringing it up to almost everyone. But not because the wind stopped, because the wind hadn't stopped when I became obsessed with it. What fascinated me was the degrees of our earthly demise. The making up of the minds in Heaven with great saddness that the experiment here had really failed after all, as I see it, the angels setting out to do what John watched in the spirit as Jesus showed him in Rev. 6. And as they were setting forth to do that John sees the fifth angel rush in and tell them to stop. DO NOT HARM the Earth, the angel says, UNTIL I have sealed....
Well, we all know this passage and disagree constantly about what John say, but I just believe John. I don't see any human in the Bible more trustworthy than John, or less easy to understand, and had he said the moon was made of green cheese I would stand to my death it was so. Obviously it meant that we should see things through John's eyes. As he saw them and passed them on. Because this was all so important to Jesus Christ, of whom Revelation speaks and centers on, John uncharacteristically gets very bold in warning anyone at all not to try and make anything of Revelations except what John wrote down for us to read in 1998. He officially curses those who do so in specific words, illustrating the curses.
Jesus Himself instructs John in Rev. 1:19 for John to write the things which thou seen, and the things which are, and the things which
shall be HEREAFTER. He dictates three realities that John will record. The things he sees, the things that are happening at that time, and the things which are to come. Deliniated. I don't know, this makes sense to me. Does it anyone else?
If what John saw of the last days of mankind is correct, he saw a time when the angels were dispatched to the four corners of the earth to begin to things shown in Rev. 5, which had been the things to come hereafter, not happening now as Jesus and John watched. First of all, how could they be happening as Jesus and John watched? This revelation happened in 65 B.C. or some such. Obviously John and Jesus in REv. 5 were not transported to now and were watching it. Jesus said I'm going to show you some of the horrible things that are in the futrure, and that is Chap. 6. Chap. 7 begins with the first step, the angel proceeding forth to do it, stopped by the fifth angel who is chosen to mark what I take with no problem to be Jewish people, and not gentile allegory. By that time there were enough gentiles, if Jesus wanted to the Holy Spirit would have instructed John to call them 12,000 from the Greeks, and 12,000 from the Romans, and 12, 000 from the Scyhtians, etc. They were already named in the Bible as major sources of converts.
But obvious 12,000 from tribes of original Isreal. I hope Robert makes his point on that it sounds very interesting.
If anyone is still awake or reading this, immedaitely after that John who is in Heaven looking down, suddenly, before his eyes, and seeming to startle him a little, sees this crazy and exhuberant crowd leaping with praise before the throne. They are not the Jews. It is not a crowd of 144,000. John says they were beyond calculation, and everyone in the world, literally. The angel says don't you know who they are? It is the ones that came out of great tribulation. Not out of The Great Tribulation. I repeat, here as elsewhere, ad nausium, that the word "tribulation" does not appear again. However, the next thing John sees is the angel of great wrath mix the ball of fire from the altar of God and mixes it with the insense of the prayers of the dead martyrs of history, and to this time, and after a great period of sad regret, the angel hurles the ball of wrath on the earth and then begins about 17 chapters in horrifying detail of what we anticipate being The (THE) Great Tribulation.
This is what I would like to see picked apart with probing instruments under the Christian microscope, as it stands well on its own. It is what John saw, and Jesus told him to write it exactly so we would know the things which must come hereafter. Personally, I don't see what on earth a sentence in Thessalonians has to do with what John saw in sequence happening, if it contradicts what John saw.
I don't know diddley about nothing, frankly, but I am smart enough to read what John saw, and take his warning to not mess with it or give it other interpretations not seen in John's Revelation, by John, as shown to him by Jesus Christ. That supercedes all other obscure references in my book. |
