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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lady Lurksalot who wrote (15148)	1/8/1998 11:07:00 PM
From: Cheeky Kid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Cheeky's Internet Predications: (Some of them) 1. Downloading your favourite software title over the web will be the norm shortly. You see this starting now, go to Symantec.com, download Norton Utilities, ANTIVIRUS, etc, others like Adobe, Corel, etc., you can buy and download your software from the comfort of your home. I believe this type of distribution method will be the preferred method, and will make mail-order and retail software purchases obsolete within 3 years. As for games, on CD and now DVD, they will still be available retail, but our operating systems, utilities, word processors, spreadsheet, HTML editors, graphics programs, etc... will be more convenient as a download. The Internet is an awesome powerful distribution tool. 2. Internet Gambling will flourish like we have never seen in history as well Adult entertainment. Adult entertainment is an obvious easy guess. 3. GOODBYE bank tellers, ATM (Automated Teller Machine) usage will "decrease," your computer and PDA or Digital Cell Phone will make Internet banking rule. With direct deposit, your company deposits your paycheck into your bank account, go on-line an do ALL your banking. I mean ALL your banking!!! It is happening right now. 4. Newspapers and other news print sources better be worried, on-line news is a prince and soon will be KING. Most newspapers and other print media have some sort of a cut down version of on-line papers...some suck, and some are very good. When I speak of print media, I mean medical journals, magazines (all sorts), news papers, trade journals, etc. I have personal experience where medical information from the American Heart Association's website was available to me before my GP, and specialist received their updated journals. When it comes to medical info you read on the net, it is always wise to run it past your doctor before you do ANYTHING. 5. The list can go on, and on. As for businesses, this new mega industry, The Internet, will create business opportunities for the person who keeps on top of all this. There will be businesses starting in the months and years ahead that have not even been dreamed about yet, filling voids and services that also have not been dreamed up yet, but again, you have to stay on top of all the new stuff coming out...oh, knowing how to program in HTML would be a bonus...it's not that hard you know!! May you live long and prosper, and have many heathy cheeky kids. P.S. My websites will never say "No Smoking Allowed"

To: Lady Lurksalot who wrote (15148)	1/9/1998 12:54:00 AM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

Sorry, Holly, but I just don't agree with you. First, I responded to the part of your post to Freddy that was really addressed to me, logically explaining my views, and reassuring you that whether you smoked and I didn't seemed to be irrelevant to the discussion. I would have liked to understand more of what conspiracy or government plot or whatever it is you keep referring to that you won't come out and say, because I think why people might be making very distorted studies intentionally and trying to take your rights away is relevant to the debate, but of course it is your right not to say the way you feel out here. It just makes it hard for me to know how to respond to your argument, since the motivation for these health agencies and doctors to act in this way is missing. Instead of responding to my post serioiusly in reply, you sort of buzzed me off with a Burma shave thingy. Regarding the EPA study which showed 53,000 deaths a year from second-hand smoke, you claimed the figures were "skewed and screwed", if I recall correctly. You didn't offer any proof, though, so I went looking and found other studies where the data is gathered in other ways, statistically speaking. In other words, since the main complaint about the EPA study seems to be how the data was interpreted, and how people were judged to be subject to second-hand smoke, I found a study of nurses who had been followed for a very long time in a study of several health issues, and part of the group had long ago indicated they were subjected to second-hand smoke at work or at home. I am not sure if there will ever be a study that pleases you, but certainly the research in this study is solid, by prominent doctors at major universities. And you have never explained to me why doctors, who if you want to be cynical would make a lot more money if everyone smoked, are trying to just take your personal freedoms away. I think it is possible to have different points of view and still be able to discuss issues rationally and politely on this thread. I definitely have friends with all sorts of viewpoints, and I am quite willling to change mine if strong objective evidence is offered that convinces me. However, I just didn't see any that did on this issue. I sure don't think the tobacco companies who are breaking the law to increase nicotine in cigarettes and then lying under oath about it are doing that because they think less cigarettes will be smoked; they want to make sure there are always plenty of addicts to continue to buy their products. In any event, we disagree, and maybe your emotional feelings about this issue are just very strong, so perhaps it's better if we drop it.