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To: Gemlaoshi who wrote (136104)10/16/2017 7:08:16 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218055
 
big topic, best we dialogue over time as opposed to encapsulating big topic in one post.

re <<Perhaps my thinking is too calcified to see that this time it really is different>>

- distinct possibility, but must watch & brief to note trajectory and way-points.

re <<Could you please explain (minus the euphemisms) how you and your HK cohorts view the "main thrust of the point of the project", and why you expect a different outcome this time>>

- assuming for now that history is important, as a track record if not telling guide, and ignoring ignorant sloganeering re how history doesn't matter

- as a shorthand, positing that star trek captain james t kirk / prime directives and that entire eco system bears some semblance to ideal state we ought to reach for as a species (from amongst delineated benchmarks such as logan's run, minority report, terminator, etc etc

- am unsure whom kirk was supposed modelled on, but his precedant must fairly include admiral zheng he

- in my view it was a shame that the ming dynasty, having tee-ed up admiral zheng he en.wikipedia.org (sinbad to those who knew him as such), then deliberately decided to stop at the cusp of a new age, thus enabling hundreds of years of barbarism, etc etc

- a similar deliberate mistake must be avoided this round should we as a species wish to evolve to the next level faster

- given the state of technologies (hardware and software and services and institutions), this time must be different

- no comment on whether good or bad, net net, but very different for sure

guidance - we all are going on a journey, recommend getting some gold, just in case, for much macro consequences may not be good for all even if generally good all around



To: Gemlaoshi who wrote (136104)10/16/2017 10:02:29 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 218055
 
more re admiral zheng he / sinbad the sailor

albeit i think the coming iteration shall mostly involve the cislunar space and some planets

obor is perhaps just a curious side show, maybe a footnote, at most an enabling stepping stone

ngm.nationalgeographic.com

China's Great Armada, Admiral Zheng He - National Geographic Magazine

Get a taste of what awaits you in print from this compelling excerpt.

Viewed from the rocky outcropping of Dondra Head at the southernnmost tip of Sri Lanka, the first sighting of the Ming fleet is a massive shadow on the horizon. As the shadow rises, it breaks into a cloud of tautly ribbed sail, aflame in the tropical sun. With relentless determination, the cloud draws ever closer, and in its fiery embrace an enormous city appears. A floating city, like nothing the world has ever seen before. No warning could have prepared officials, soldiers, or the thunderstruck peasants who stand atop Dondra Head for the scene that unfolds below them. Stretched across miles of the Indian Ocean in terrifying majesty is the armada of Zheng He, admiral of the imperial Ming navy.

Exactly 600 years ago this month the great Ming armada weighed anchor in Nanjing, on the first of seven epic voyages as far west as Africa—almost a century before Christopher Columbus's arrival in the Americas and Vasco da Gama's in India. Even then the European expeditions would seem paltry by comparison: All the ships of Columbus and da Gama combined could have been stored on a single deck of a single vessel in the fleet that set sail under Zheng He.

Its commander was, without question, the most towering maritime figure in the 4,000-year annals of China, a visionary who imagined a new world and set out consciously to fashion it. He was also a profoundly unlikely candidate for admiral in anyone's navy, much less that of the Dragon Throne.

The greatest seafarer in China's history was raised in the mountainous heart of Asia, several weeks' travel from the closest port. More improbable yet, Zheng was not even Chinese—he was by origin a Central Asian Muslim. Born Ma He, the son of a rural official in the Mongol province of Yunnan, he had been taken captive as an invading Chinese army overthrew the Mongols in 1382. Ritually castrated, he was trained as an imperial eunuch and assigned to the court of Zhu Di, the bellicose Prince of Yan.

Within 20 years the boy who had writhed under Ming knives had become one of the prince's chief aides, a key strategist in the rebellion that made Zhu Di the Yongle (Eternal Happiness) emperor in 1402. Renamed Zheng after his exploits at the battle of Zhenglunba, near Beijing, he was chosen to lead one of the most powerful naval forces ever assembled.

Six centuries later I left China with photographer Michael Yamashita in search of Zheng He's legacy, a 10,000-mile (16,093-kilometer) journey that would carry us from Yunnan to Africa's Swahili coast. Along the way I came to feel that I had found the man himself.

ngm.nationalgeographic.com





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To: Gemlaoshi who wrote (136104)10/16/2017 10:15:49 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 218055
 
... and so i watch & brief

on the mundane, i.e.

Nukes bloomberg.com ,

Quantum popsci.com

FAST dailygalaxy.com , whatever

... on the esoteric,

Pulsar navigation spaceflightnow.com

EMDrive popsci.com

... am inclined to believe getting to the next level shall depend on science and tech, as opposed to a lot of other aspects, and in the grand scheme of things, we have little time to get to the next level



To: Gemlaoshi who wrote (136104)10/18/2017 2:10:18 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218055
 
coincidentally, if we are to believe, this day we have news of ...

- team america plan to 2040 zerohedge.com "US Army Is Preparing For Decades Of Hybrid Wars"

- team china scheme to 2050 bloomberg.com "Xi Plans to Turn China Into a Leading Global Power by 2050"



To: Gemlaoshi who wrote (136104)10/29/2017 6:36:36 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 218055
 
re <<I too believe that OBOR is not merely an infrastructure initiative.>>

... what some folks mentioned in below article do not understand is that all similar me-to project initiatives would merely make china's task easier, probably due to their collective misunderstanding of what obor is meant to be.

hindustantimes.com

Japan to propose OBOR-like project with India, US to counter China
Building cross-border infrastructure with friendly countries could help New Delhi blunt the Chinese initiative which it sees as an influence-securing project that also runs through Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir.

HT Correspondent
Hindustan Times, New Delhi

Japan is set to propose a strategic dialogue with India, the United States and Australia to build ports and high-speed road networks across Asia to Africa, a plan aimed at countering China’s cross-continent “Belt and Road” plan.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is expected to propose the idea of the four-party dialogue to US President Donald Trump on November 6, foreign minister Taro Kono was quoted as saying by the Nikkei business daily on Thursday.

The Japanese proposal will be significant for India. Building cross-border infrastructure with friendly countries could help New Delhi blunt the Chinese initiative which it sees as an influence-securing project that also runs through Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir.

Kono’s comments also came a day after Hindustan Times reported that US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has suggested that Washington and New Delhi together build roads and ports across South Asia to Asia-Pacific in response to China’s move.

Tillerson, who was in New Delhi on Thursday, pushed for building of roads across Bangladesh to Afghanistan so that even Pakistan could be asked to participate in the project.

Speaking to reporters on his way home, Tillerson said the US offer for India, Japan and Australia to be the four anchors of security and peace in the Indo-Pacific region was also an attempt to move relations with India to the “next level”.

Asked if the Indian were excited or nervous about the offer, which he first made in a speech in Washington DC, Tillerson said, “Yes, but I would be the first to acknowledge it is a new approach as well... the US has had positive relations with India for 70 years but it’s never quite moved to that next level... What we’re trying to put in place is make the case that this needs to move to a different level and be sustained, as I said, for the next 100 years.”

Kono said he exchanged his thoughts on the four-nation dialogue with Tillerson and Australian foreign minister Julie Bishop back in August. He said he had also offered the foreign ministers of Britain and France collaborative roles in the partnership.

The proposal is for the leaders of the four nations to promote free trade and defence cooperation across the land and sea to Southeast, South and Central Asia, and beyond to the Middle East and Africa, Kono told Nikkei.

“We are in an era when Japan has to exert itself diplomatically by drawing a big strategic picture,” Kono was quoted as saying. “To maintain free and open ocean, the economy and security will surely be on the table.”

The “Belt and Road” plan, a “Silk Road”-like initiative, is a vehicle for China to take a greater role on the international stage by funding and building global transport and trade links in more than 60 countries across three continents.

A brainchild of Chinese President Xi Jinping, the project was included in the ruling Communist Party’s constitution this week, giving it greater policy heft and added pressure to succeed.

(With Reuters input)