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To: zzpat who wrote (12250)	10/25/2017 2:22:35 PM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12464

In Chinese, you need to use some online translation help sohu.com Not sure currently, whether the Chinese gov. cut the subsidies for EV companies, but I am sure they are not eliminating the subsidies. It is the strong lobby power of the big Foreign car companies in China causes the Double point system delay, which is Very Heavy Subsidies for EV industry in China. I will NOT be surprised if some Han Jian/corrupted officials got bought by those crook multinational companies and get caught later. You mentioned about Tesla the other day. They are nothing but trying to increase their sales to rich Chinese. Their US sales going down the drain. Q3 was planning to make/sell 1500 cars, but actually only made 220. Why? NOT because any production issue, but because NO one buy their cars! Their annual sales is 80K ONLY at the moment. It is a joke, and will NEVER make a ripple in Chinese EV market. Another problem is their Charging station is unique, NOT compatible with other brand or models of EV. I hope the Chinese gov. has some regulation in place (may already there), and Require EVERY single EV companies who producing EV in China making the charging system compatible ( just like they did for ALL cell phones sold in China. Good for the consumers, and good for the environment), so they can share all the public charging stations. Chinese gov. has been building the public charging stations for EV like crazy since 2016. The total # of charging Stand (means individual charging stand) in China as of late 2016 is 150K, 100K of them were built in 2016. In whole Europe, now there are 106K. In the U.S., only 40K, and Japan, only 20K. Right now, Tesla has opening for 8 so-called engineer positions, but MOST of the 8 position are Sales position. They are a joke. That CEO has a very BAD reputation in China, many Chinese call him a Scam artist, and for a REASON. Tesla is a brand in EV like iPhone in cell phone, ONLY thousands of times more expensive. Look at iPhone 8, now FEW suckers in China are interested in it. As for the new EV sale data in China, I guess only Chinese source for now

To: zzpat who wrote (12250)

10/25/2017 9:05:34 PM

From: RealMuLan

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here has a chart for Charging stands in China, as of the end of Sept., the total # is 190599 individual charging stands

nev.ofweek.com

And China already has the regulation in place from 2015, requires ALL EV manufacturers have to use compatible charge system.
yingyu.com

here has EV sales between Jan. - June this year in China, the total is 179,148 EV cars . That "500K" number is from that Chinese article, maybe it is the estimates for this whole year. but still impressive. By comparison, the U.S. only sold 17,182 EV cars, about 10% of China's

All the ? means Chinese charaters,

d1ev.com

ranking	model	Jan-June 2017 sales	market share(%)
1	??D2 EV	18693	10
2	??EC180	17939	10
3	???e5	10826	6
4	????eRX5 PHEV	9205	5
5	??iEV??	8197	5
6	????EV	7982	4
7	????	7502	4
8	????PHEV	6838	4
9	??eQ	6605	4
10	?? E100	6136	3
	other	79225
	Total	179148

To: zzpat who wrote (12250)	10/25/2017 9:32:19 PM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12464

thefiscaltimes.com ========================= " China is already the world's largest maker of electric vehicles. Last year, it sold 507,000 of them - or about 45 per cent of the world's total production. China also has a target to make seven million electric and hybrid vehicles by 2025." nationmultimedia.com ========================= "China is aiming to produce 2 million EVs a year by 2020 and 7 million units five years later, amounting to a fifth of total car production by 2025. The country produced 424,000 new energy vehicles in the first three quarters of this year, including hybrids, up 40.2 percent compared with the same period of 2016, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers." uk.reuters.com